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Voters Speak Loud and Clear...

Started by danno_007, 11/07/2008 04:01PM
Posted 11/07/2008 04:01PM Opening Post
...that they need a heck of a lot more convincing.

Canadian Liberal Party Handed Biggest Defeat in 100 years on their "carbon tax" platform.

California voters reinforce the backlash...
Posted 11/08/2008 10:47AM #1
TORONTO (Reuters) - Canada's environmental record is among the worst in the industrialized world, due in part to its poor performance fighting global warming, according to a report from the Conference Board of Canada on Monday.

Canada placed 15th among 17 peers, beating only Australia and the United States. Greenhouse gas emissions, high garbage production, and rampant overuse of fresh water were its biggest environmental problems.

"Without serious attention to environmental sustainability, Canada puts its society and its quality of life at risk," the independent research organization said in the report.

Canada's government has been widely criticized for being soft on greenhouse gas emissions, which have been on the rise, partly due to booming development of the Alberta oil sands.

Canada's per capita garbage production, meanwhile, is significantly higher than of any other OECD nation and its per capita water usage is second only to the United States, according to the report.

"We are among the world leaders in managing our forests, our air quality is good overall, and we have made progress using energy efficiently," said Len Coad, a director at the Conference Board. "But we generate far too much waste, we still use water as though we have an unlimited supply, and our past record on greenhouse gas emissions is terrible."

Posted 11/08/2008 08:56PM #2

As a Canadian, I apologize to the world.

It is shameful that we ban asbestos here, but continue to produce it for export. Shameful. The reason has to do with the tricky politics between the federal government and the province of Quebec, where the mines are located. Shameful.

As for the "Green Shift", yes, it did hurt the Liberals, but note that of the five federal parties (Conservative, Liberal, Democrat, Greens, and Bloc) only the Conservatives did not support a carbon tax and they did not win the popular vote. There were of course other factors, particularly a liberal leader that just didn't connect with voters.

In my home province, our conservative premier decried the green shift and warned that it would destroy our economy, then amazingly, just days after the election he goes on to announce that we need some kind of tax on emissions: What a knob.

With the manufacturing sector in a tailspin, we have becoming increasingly depended on the export of oil, particularly from the dirty oil sands. The only way that further oil sands development will cease is if the price stays at $65 a barrel (not likely) or if American's stop buying oil produced from the oil sands. Just as conflict diamonds were tagged, so too could oil. Canada supplies the US with more oil than any other. As long as there is a demand, our conservative government will ensure the supply, regardless of the costs to the environment. In fact, we are obligated under NAFTA to ensure supply to the USA.

Don't worry Danny, the liberals will be back. They have governed the country longer than any other. They are the party that balanced the budget (following the reckless spending of the conservatives) and ran nearly a decade of surpluses. IF the liberals select a more charismatic leader, dare I say Obama-esque, they will trounce the awkward and incompetent conservatives. A carbon tax, in some form, is coming, it is inevitable. The timing may be sped up depending on how Obama decides how to address American emissions: