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Started by jimmoscheck, 07/21/2024 06:03PM
Posted 08/01/2024 02:22AM #30
Originally Posted by James Brown

Yep, I think this is a good point.  I think it is admirable and appropriate when lefties acknowledge that there was no significant Russian collusion.  I also think that those who still think the 2020 election was stolen are dupes.  

Going beyond this example though, I have low regard for wing nuts in both parties and I do not think there are more nuts on the right than the left.  Consider the current and absolutely pervasive story line, that Trump will end democracy, cancel all future elections and be an "existential threat" to the union.  Every single one of the talking heads on the left, plus all of the politicians on the left up to and including Biden have spouted out one variation or another of this canard.  "Existential threat" is without doubt the Democrat's main talking point this cycle. 

I think the "existential threat" story line is hoqwash, and I don't think the pundits and politicians believe their own rhetoric at all.  This makes "Existential threat" a big lie I suppose, but it is clearly opinion, and probably not intended to be believed literally, so I don't put it up there with collusion or stolen election lies.  Either way, I think that those who truly fear Trump is an existential threat to democracy lack any understanding of how our government works and how robust the checks and balances inherent in the system are.

That said, I think Trump's actions, demeanor, personality, and ego are disqualifying for high office.  Why do the D's insist on going the "existential threat" route rather than relying on Trump's glaring character flaws?   Like the criminal prosecutions, this line of attack is ineffective at best and maybe has backfired.  Of course it is too early to tell how Harris is going to approach these issues.
I'm both with you and not with you on this, James.  

Consider Trump's 'you won't have to vote ever again' comments (I started a thread on this but it went nowhere) This is an example of saying the quiet part out loud and demonstrates that there are two phenomena in play:  There is the list of changes the conservative side would like to happen, either soon or down the trail a few years as shown in Agenda 47, project 2025 and even the policies of the PNAC from a couple of decades ago and there is what they are actually going to have to settle for, again, either soon or further down the trail.  

As you have said, there is a robustness to the American political system which will tone down or outright prevent the most radical ideas but, I fear,   the protections built into the Constitution etc. are not perfectly robust and some of the anti-democratic ideas will slip through..  

To be brief, if the Republicans win in November, American democracy will still be mostly ok but it will be less robust than it is now.

Dave
Posted 08/01/2024 05:17AM #31
Originally Posted by David Cotterell

I'm both with you and not with you on this, James.  

Consider Trump's 'you won't have to vote ever again' comments (I started a thread on this but it went nowhere) This is an example of saying the quiet part out loud and demonstrates that there are two phenomena in play:  There is the list of changes the conservative side would like to happen, either soon or down the trail a few years as shown in Agenda 47, project 2025 and even the policies of the PNAC from a couple of decades ago and there is what they are actually going to have to settle for, again, either soon or further down the trail.  

As you have said, there is a robustness to the American political system which will tone down or outright prevent the most radical ideas but, I fear,   the protections built into the Constitution etc. are not perfectly robust and some of the anti-democratic ideas will slip through..  

To be brief, if the Republicans win in November, American democracy will still be mostly ok but it will be less robust than it is now.

Dave
"To be brief, if the Republicans win in November, American democracy will still be mostly ok but it will be less robust than it is now."

You're an optimist. 

That's like saying democracy will be "mostly" ok in Ukraine when it falls and ditto for Taiwan. And whatever Trump will do will be just fine because SCOTUS made him "mostly" immune. Looks like you're forgetting about the project 2025 agenda, too...
Posted 08/01/2024 04:16PM #32
How come Biden was too old? If Trump wins why doesn't it matter that he'll be older than Biden was when he took office? Too old is too old and I don't really see Trump being any more "cognitive" than Biden has been in the last few months when he confuses Pelosi with Hayley and Biden with Obama.

Not to mention, what the the hell he was trying to do yesterday at the National Association of Black Journalists. Trump made a big deal calling the ABC journalist rude who asked the first question, never mind that fact that everything she stated in the question was true. From what I here the pundits say he only cares about black men aged 18-35 and his "message" somehow "resonates" with them. The fine saviors of the Democrats, black women, will some to Harris in droves and convince their sons to do the same with a slap up their head. Don't underestimate the political power of black women on the electorate, even in some red states I imagine.
Posted 08/01/2024 06:13PM #33
Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
How come Biden was too old? If Trump wins why doesn't it matter that he'll be older than Biden was when he took office? Too old is too old and I don't really see Trump being any more "cognitive" than Biden has been in the last few months when he confuses Pelosi with Hayley and Biden with Obama.

Not to mention, what the the hell he was trying to do yesterday at the National Association of Black Journalists. Trump made a big deal calling the ABC journalist rude who asked the first question, never mind that fact that everything she stated in the question was true. From what I here the pundits say he only cares about black men aged 18-35 and his "message" somehow "resonates" with them. The fine saviors of the Democrats, black women, will some to Harris in droves and convince their sons to do the same with a slap up their head. Don't underestimate the political power of black women on the electorate, even in some red states I imagine.

The NABJ appearance was nothing short of a hot mess: inside a train wreck, inside a dumpster fireTM - Jake Tapper

I don't know who thought Trump's appearance at the NABJ was a good idea, but please, can they be more in charge of his appearances?

But of course, true to form, Trump is doubling down and insisting that he crushed that interview and that the venue was rude, nasty, and biased against him. The rudest and most disrespectful man complained that he was mistreated because the interviewer asked reasonable questions. His team ended the interview early because he was doing so well. Am I right? Wow! I don't understand how this creepy, weird sociopath ever managed to get a stranglehold on the Republican Party. If you ever get him outside of one of his political rallies or a softball interview, essentially his ass-kissing bubbles, and someone asks him real questions, he can't handle it. He is the ultimate snowflake.
Posted 08/01/2024 08:11PM | Edited 08/01/2024 08:12PM #34
Originally Posted by James Lacey


The NABJ appearance was nothing short of a hot mess: inside a train wreck, inside a dumpster fireTM - Jake Tapper

I don't know who thought Trump's appearance at the NABJ was a good idea, but please, can they be more in charge of his appearances?

But of course, true to form, Trump is doubling down and insisting that he crushed that interview and that the venue was rude, nasty, and biased against him. The rudest and most disrespectful man complained that he was mistreated because the interviewer asked reasonable questions. His team ended the interview early because he was doing so well. Am I right? Wow! I don't understand how this creepy, weird sociopath ever managed to get a stranglehold on the Republican Party. If you ever get him outside of one of his political rallies or a softball interview, essentially his ass-kissing bubbles, and someone asks him real questions, he can't handle it. He is the ultimate snowflake.
And we'll hear numerous far fetched reasons from Trump and the campaign why he won't debate Harris.

I'd say the real reason is he's chicken. She would annihilate him and they know it.

If I was her I'd keep goading him on. It sure couldn't hurt her and makes him look weak and scared to debate her, a woman. Then again, he'd just say she is nasty and rude as he does to all strong women who present him with facts using his own words.
 
This is the republican nominee folks. My Dad is rolling over in his grave, as is his hero Ronald Reagan.
Posted 08/07/2024 01:25PM #35
This one made me laugh. grin

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Posted 08/07/2024 01:48PM #36
Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
This one made me laugh. grin

It's a good one!

I was curious about the image's origin, so I did a reverse image search and found that in 1961, people lined up to audition their cats for the movie Tales of Terror.

There are a bunch more photos and a backstory here:

https://www.life.com/animals/black-cats/
Posted 08/10/2024 05:46PM #37
Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
This one made me laugh. grin
Just showed my wife this meme.   She laughed out loud.   😂