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Bush 41 - one of the greatest Presidents in our lifetime

Started by RussCarroll, 12/04/2018 05:38AM
Posted 12/04/2018 05:38AM Opening Post
The many stories and reflections offered about Pres Bush 41 are a stark reminder of how small, undeserving, and inadequate Donald Trump is to hold the office of President.
Posted 12/04/2018 07:44AM #1
Originally Posted by Russ Carroll
The many stories and reflections offered about Pres Bush 41 are a stark reminder of how small, undeserving, and inadequate Donald Trump is to hold the office of President.
Do you have a problem with the election procedure for President? 

Darian R.
Posted 12/04/2018 08:17AM | Edited 12/04/2018 08:17AM #2
Darian, I'm only sad about the outcome. Remember, GHWB was run out of town and denied a second term in the same way that Trump got elected - the voters. Yes, they make the wrong decisions on occasion, such as electing Obama.

Richard, I voted for GHWB twice, and GWB twice. I am an actual conservative, not a Trump lemming.
Posted 12/04/2018 08:57AM #3
Originally Posted by Russ Carroll
Darian, I'm only sad about the outcome. Remember, GHWB was run out of town and denied a second term in the same way that Trump got elected - the voters. Yes, they make the wrong decisions on occasion, such as electing Obama.

Richard, I voted for GHWB twice, and GWB twice. I am an actual conservative, not a Trump lemming.
Russ, I may be mistaken, but I think Bush would have been reelected if Perot had not entered the race.

Darian R.
Posted 12/04/2018 09:06AM | Edited 12/04/2018 09:07AM #4
Originally Posted by Darian Rachal

Russ, I may be mistaken, but I think Bush would have been reelected if Perot had not entered the race.
Totally agree. The voters got it wrong IMO. Perot and Buchanan were a foreshadowing of Trump - populist "know-it-all's" that talked a good game and basically build a mob, but had little substance, and certainly no business being President. i don't question their sincerity or right to run; just voters judgement that backed them.
Posted 12/04/2018 10:57AM #5
Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

Totally agree. The voters got it wrong IMO. Perot and Buchanan were a foreshadowing of Trump - populist "know-it-all's" that talked a good game and basically build a mob, but had little substance, and certainly no business being President. i don't question their sincerity or right to run; just voters judgement that backed them.
Certainly an appropriate description of Obama; a totally worthless President who accomplished nothing worthwhile in 8 years.sad

Darian R.
Posted 12/04/2018 07:47PM #6
Originally Posted by Richard Davis



    I don't think Bush could have won even if Ross Perot hadn't been in the race.  

Just out of curiosity, Richard, who did you vote for President in the 1992 election?
Posted 12/04/2018 11:43PM | Edited 12/04/2018 11:44PM #7
Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Well, I've been a conservative since the days of Jimmy Carter and my first vote when I was able to do so, I cast for Ronald Reagan, so you figure it out.

I think George H. W. Bush was an extraordinary person.  He had all the class that any person could have and was an amazing Gentleman, and it is said that before he died, he told his family that he DID want Donald Trump to attend his funeral, unlike John McCain.  

George H.W, Bush would have more class than to to have sleazily and classlessly taken advantage of the opportunity to Bash President Trump on the event of his passing.

We watched the disgusting leftist media immediately jump out of the box, and instead of having the respect for a great hero like George H. W. Bush to NOT bringing up Donald Trump, they made the passing of President George H. W. Bush a day to start out immediately Bashing President Donald Trump.

IMO, the most likely reason is that the vast, vast majority of so-called journalists did that is because they need psychiatric help to deal with their Trump derangement syndrome.

Not one of the fraudulent news "reporters" on MSNBC, or CNN has in their entire bodies, the class that George H. W. Bush had in his big toe.

So I will leave it to you to figure out who I voted for in 1992.  

I may not have agreed with everything that President George W. Bush did while in office, as I usually don't about ANY President that I've voted for, but I was then and still am a staunch conservative who understands that the Republican party is the only choice and is more important than my petty petulant differences I may have with any President. 

That is to say I'm not dumb enough to have supported and/or voted for the last Democrat Candidate in either the 2016 or the 2018 Midterm election.  

Just out of curiosity, Russ, who did you vote for President in the 2016 election?


 
That's what I thought, Richard. If GHW Bush had not been so smeared by what has become the alt-right, people like you would have voted for him in '92, and coincidentally, Hillary Clinton would have never been created.

There is your irony; you made Hillary Clinton possible.

I agonized and voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. It would have been a no-brainer had I known how awful Trump was going to be. I actually had hope Trump would change after winning - what I didn't reckon is that he'd change for the worse.

So I answered your question directly, yet I have to assume from your non-response that you didn't vote for Bush in 1992. You're a typical liberal.
Posted 12/05/2018 12:04AM #8
Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I'm sorry you're confused again Russ.  I did of course vote for George H. W. Bush in 1992

And no, I'm a very staunch conservative now, and have been since my earlier days, when I was young, wet behind the ears, and many times stupid as stupid can be. 

Maybe you should just reread my posting in its entirety and then you'll understand.   

i don't believe you.
Posted 12/05/2018 01:06AM #9
Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Hi Darian, 

    I don't think Bush could have won even if Ross Perot hadn't been in the race.  When Bush reneged on his no new taxes pledge, he lost a good portion of his base IMO, even though the First Gulf War was such a massive success.    

I went back and looked at the figures and it appears that about(?) of the supporters of Ross Perot were Democrats
, believe it or not.  

Perot got around 19% of the popular vote, while Bush had about 37%.  Clinton had around 46%.  

I think even if 2/3 of the Perot vote were Republicans, he couldn't have made up the difference in overtaking Clinton. 

My guess is that Clinton still would have squeaked by.

And of course today, we hear these frauds on the left who claim to be reporters, act as if they had one ounce of Respect for George H.W. Bush, when in fact they treated him with the same disrespect that they treat Every single Republican President, with disdain, mockery, and hatefulness.

It would take a class act and a person with a modicum of decency NOT to bash Donald Trump during a week when a Former President is laid to rest.

Instead one can turn on CNN and MSNBC and see the most classless individuals of all, the leftist media USE George H.W. Bush's death to bash Trump.  Laura Ingraham spoke about it on her show tonight.  

As she stated "At some point you don't even know what to say to these people.  They lack all sense of decency.  They reduce a Presidential Death to just a political battering ram, like any other issue".  

It is pretty sad, but I guess when every issue revolves around hating a person, this is what you get.  

The OP proved that.  shocked
Richard, you may be correct on that. I just always assumed Perot was the problem. I guess someone could do a detailed analysis of voting patterns by Dems/Republicans in each state to see how it affected the final electoral vote count. Nevertheless, Bush reneging on his no tax pledge certainly hurt him. I think it may have been about this time that I switched from the Republican Party to Independent. IIRC, the Republicans held both Houses and the White House. I saw no indication that an effort was being made to move the country in a decidedly conservative direction.

Darian R.