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It turns out that Joe Biden is the biggest spreader of Covid in the nation.

Started by richartisticwoods, 08/05/2021 02:04PM
Posted 08/05/2021 02:04PM Opening Post
He has refused to close the Southern Border, and McAllen TX is suffering greatly as Joe Biden has so far released 7000 Covid Positive Illegal Migrants into McAllen Tx since Feb of this year. 

Joe Biden released 1500 Covid positive migrants into McAllen Tx just last week. 

As Ted Cruz pointed out, McAllen has a population of 141K people and so now they have 5% MORE Covid Positive individuals in their city because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris could not give a damn about Covid and the health and welfare of US Citizens, they only care about MORE Democrat votes. 

And it doesn't matter if they have to infect US Citizens with Covid, they want those votes.

That is all that the Democrat party cares about, keeping their dictatorial power in place. 

Joe Biden doesn't give a damn that young girls and women traveling across the border are raped by the Coyotes bringing them in, he needs those future Democrat voters so the border will stay open.

Joe Biden doesn't give a damn that little kids are being abused by the Coyotes that are bringing them across the border, those little children are future Democrat voters, so the border will stay open. 

He is the worst Super Spreader and he has no conscience.  
Posted 08/05/2021 10:13PM #1
Originally Posted by Richard Davis
He has refused to close the Southern Border, and McAllen TX is suffering greatly as Joe Biden has so far released 7000 Covid Positive Illegal Migrants into McAllen Tx since Feb of this year. 

Joe Biden released 1500 Covid positive migrants into McAllen Tx just last week. 

As Ted Cruz pointed out, McAllen has a population of 141K people and so now they have 5% MORE Covid Positive individuals in their city because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris could not give a damn about Covid and the health and welfare of US Citizens, they only care about MORE Democrat votes. 

And it doesn't matter if they have to infect US Citizens with Covid, they want those votes.

That is all that the Democrat party cares about, keeping their dictatorial power in place. 

Joe Biden doesn't give a damn that young girls and women traveling across the border are raped by the Coyotes bringing them in, he needs those future Democrat voters so the border will stay open.

Joe Biden doesn't give a damn that little kids are being abused by the Coyotes that are bringing them across the border, those little children are future Democrat voters, so the border will stay open. 

He is the worst Super Spreader and he has no conscience.  

It's refreshing to see that the right-wing media suddenly cares about the pandemic, but let's be honest, if it had not been for the delta variant, they would still be pushing their COVID-minimizing rhetoric, which is largely responsible for the current state of vaccine hesitancy. The right-wing media and its surrogates for Republican politicians pushed their conspiracy theories, peddled their snake oil, and cried about government overreach, and created the current state of misinformation and lack of trust in the vaccines. So, it's impossible to take their sudden shift in attitude seriously or accept any of their criticisms regarding the Biden administration's handling of the pandemic, especially since Biden's response is way more competent and effective than anything the Trump administration accomplished. The truth is, if the GOP and Trump had any political acumen at all, they would lean into the vaccine and go all-in on promoting its use. They should take credit for operation warp-speed, call it the Trump vaccine, and then take credit for effectively ending the pandemic in the United States. The problem is, of course, they peddled so much bad science and misinformation that to reverse course on it is not only nearly impossible, it would expose them for the frauds they truly are to their constituents since they themselves and their families have all gotten the vaccine. If only Trump had leaned into the pandemic and taken it seriously from the beginning, we would likely have seen his re-election.
Posted 08/05/2021 10:26PM #2
Perhaps this logic explains some of the vaccine/mask hesitancy as well.....

"I wear a mask to protect you, so you need to wear one to protect me"

"That is so nice of you, while we are on the topic of protecting each other.....I carry a sidearm to protect both you and myself if something goes down. Do you carry a sidearm to protect me?"

"Well, no..."

"Why not?"

"Because its a gun....I dont want to"

"So you do understand the concept of choice, as well as personal freedom"

"Well I dont carry a gun because......"

"It doesnt matter....If it could protect me, you should do it....right? I carry because my safety is my responsibility, I dont expect others to keep me safe."

Logic is a bitch.....no doubt some will have some illogical arguments to contradict this with.... smile

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Posted 08/05/2021 10:47PM #3
Originally Posted by James Lacey


It's refreshing to see that the right-wing media suddenly cares about the pandemic, but let's be honest, if it had not been for the delta variant, they would still be pushing their COVID-minimizing rhetoric, which is largely responsible for the current state of vaccine hesitancy. The right-wing media and its surrogates for Republican politicians pushed their conspiracy theories, peddled their snake oil, and cried about government overreach, and created the current state of misinformation and lack of trust in the vaccines. So, it's impossible to take their sudden shift in attitude seriously or accept any of their criticisms regarding the Biden administration's handling of the pandemic, especially since Biden's response is way more competent and effective than anything the Trump administration accomplished. The truth is, if the GOP and Trump had any political acumen at all, they would lean into the vaccine and go all-in on promoting its use. They should take credit for operation warp-speed, call it the Trump vaccine, and then take credit for effectively ending the pandemic in the United States. The problem is, of course, they peddled so much bad science and misinformation that to reverse course on it is not only nearly impossible, it would expose them for the frauds they truly are to their constituents since they themselves and their families have all gotten the vaccine. If only Trump had leaned into the pandemic and taken it seriously from the beginning, we would likely have seen his re-election.
Although there's a few in the GOP whom I believe are serious in combating covid, namely the governors of Vermont and Arkansas, the others who claim to be now are realizing the deleterious effects politically and not because of any altruistic sense of civic and moral duty. The red states are taking it on the chin and the GOP can't ignore it. Politically speaking, it's been speculated it could cost them races in close elections. Case in point, in my red neck of the woods, the GOP rep won the last election by a scant 200 votes or so. The covid deaths are now 300+ in the Santa Clarita Valley, with some prominent Republicans among them. It's a similar scenario in other areas of the country as well. Of course, most die hard Trump followers like DeSantis and Abbott will do what Trump did: double down on their mistakes no matter how wrong they are in doing so...
Posted 08/05/2021 11:51PM #4
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Although there's a few in the GOP whom I believe are serious in combating covid, namely the governors of Vermont and Arkansas, the others who claim to be now are realizing the deleterious effects politically and not because of any altruistic sense of civic and moral duty. The red states are taking it on the chin and the GOP can't ignore it. Politically speaking, it's been speculated it could cost them races in close elections. Case in point, in my red neck of the woods, the GOP rep won the last election by a scant 200 votes or so. The covid deaths are now 300+ in the Santa Clarita Valley, with some prominent Republicans among them. It's a similar scenario in other areas of the country as well. Of course, most die hard Trump followers like DeSantis and Abbott will do what Trump did: double down on their mistakes no matter how wrong they are in doing so...
Case in point reported today in The Hill:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/566513-texas-republican-leader-dies-of-covid-19-five-days-after-anti
Posted 08/06/2021 12:08AM #5
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Case in point reported today in The Hill:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/566513-texas-republican-leader-dies-of-covid-19-five-days-after-anti
And yet another:  https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/dr-joseph-mercola-covid-misinformation-kaye-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/
Posted 08/06/2021 12:27AM | Edited 08/06/2021 12:30AM #6
Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
"I don't expect others to keep me safe."

Logic is a bitch.....no doubt some will have some illogical arguments to contradict this with.... smile
Hi Greg:

The punchline delivered by your hypothetical hero is profoundly flawed. 

We all expect others to keep us safe.  I don't think this can be denied, unless one is a hermit living in the woods completely detached from society.  On the highway for example, we all expect our fellow drivers to be sober.  We lock them up in jail if they refuse to comply.  We do that to protect innocent third parties, not to protect the drunks.  We all expect lawful gunowners to use their guns in a lawful and safe manner.  You know what we do, if they refuse.  We expect our tradesmen to build to code.  We expect our restaurant cooks to comply with the health regs.

And so on - I think one could argue that a key reason societies evolved is because we all work together to keep each other safe, which is the same as saying part of the social agreement is that we expect others to abide by rules to keep us safe.  I'm happy we have an army, a police force, first responders and so on - because they keep me safe.

Personal liberty is something I cherish, but personal liberty has its limits too - and public safety is at the foundation of many of those limits.  I can think of countless examples where public safety trumps my personal liberty.  Requiring kids to be vaccinated against childhood diseases if they attend public school is one point where public safety trumps personal liberty that I have no problem with.

Jim
Posted 08/06/2021 12:33AM | Edited 08/06/2021 12:33AM #7
Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Greg:

The punchline delivered by your hypothetical hero is profoundly flawed. 

We all expect others to keep us safe.  I don't think this can be denied.  On the highway for example, we all expect our fellow drivers to be sober.  We lock them up in jail if they refuse to comply.  We do that to protect innocent third parties, not to protect the drunks.  We all expect lawful gunowners to use their guns in a lawful and safe manner.  You know what we do, if they refuse.  We expect our tradesmen to build to code.  We expect our restaurant cooks to comply with the health regs.

And so on - I think you could argue that a key reason societies evolved is because we all expect others to keep us safe.  I'm happy we have an army, a police force, first responders and so on - because they keep me safe.

Personal liberty is something I cherish, but personal liberty has its limits too - and public safety is at the foundation of many of those limits.  I can think of countless examples where public safety trumps my personal liberty.  Requiring kids to be vaccinated against childhood diseases if they attend public school is one point where public safety trumps personal liberty that I do not have a problem with.

Jim
Please Jim, you're trying to argue with the "logic" of a Trumptoid and their go-to argument of personal freedoms and liberties along with lack of government inclusion in local affairs. The latter is exemplified by Ron Desantis who will cut local school district funding if they institute mitigation measures or fine local and county officials for doing the same....   
Posted 08/06/2021 12:52AM #8
Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Greg:

The punchline delivered by your hypothetical hero is profoundly flawed. 

We all expect others to keep us safe.  I don't think this can be denied, unless one is a hermit living in the woods completely detached from society.  On the highway for example, we all expect our fellow drivers to be sober.  We lock them up in jail if they refuse to comply.  We do that to protect innocent third parties, not to protect the drunks.  We all expect lawful gunowners to use their guns in a lawful and safe manner.  You know what we do, if they refuse.  We expect our tradesmen to build to code.  We expect our restaurant cooks to comply with the health regs.

And so on - I think one could argue that a key reason societies evolved is because we all work together to keep each other safe, which is the same as saying part of the social agreement is that we expect others to abide by rules to keep us safe.  I'm happy we have an army, a police force, first responders and so on - because they keep me safe.

Personal liberty is something I cherish, but personal liberty has its limits too - and public safety is at the foundation of many of those limits.  I can think of countless examples where public safety trumps my personal liberty.  Requiring kids to be vaccinated against childhood diseases if they attend public school is one point where public safety trumps personal liberty that I have no problem with.

Jim

Told ya someone would come along and make an illogical argument and here ya are lol

I dont expect you to come running if I am attacked, I will allow that you MIGHT but I certainly wouldnt bet my life on it. I am perfectly content with being responsible for my own safety. Now if being prepared to protect myself affords me the chance to protect someone else then great, I am happy to do so. Laws and wishful thinking mean little in the moment.....so you really arent making a valid point. Laws and police etc are about dealing with the aftermath and have little to do with the moment. 

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Posted 08/06/2021 01:02AM #9
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Please Jim, you're trying to argue with the "logic" of a Trumptoid and their go-to argument of personal freedoms and liberties along with lack of government inclusion in local affairs. The latter is exemplified by Ron Desantis who will cut local school district funding if they institute mitigation measures or fine local and county officials for doing the same....   

So I gave a little thought to things I trust more than your opinion on pretty much anything Rod....

1. A mixed drink from Bill Cosby
2. A Somalian cruise line
3. A prostate exam from Cpt Hook
4. A Styrofoam gas can
5. A Nigerian prince inheritance email
6. Helen Keller as my plane pilot
7. Flint Michigan tap water
8. Breast milk from Bruce Jenner
9. Facebook's free speech protection
10. A blood transfusion from Charlie Sheen

Thats just my top 10 in no particular order......it is a long list smile

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