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Russian bounties on American servicemen in Afghanistan? I'm sure you guys will be OK with this, too.

Started by jimmoscheck, 06/28/2020 03:07PM
Posted 06/28/2020 03:07PM Opening Post
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

"Nobody briefed or told me, @VPPence, or Chief of Staff @MarkMeadows
about the so-called attacks on our troops in Afghanistan by Russians, as reported through an “anonymous source” by the Fake News
@nytimes  Everybody is denying it & there have not been many attacks on us.....

...Nobody’s been tougher on Russia than the Trump Administration. With Corrupt Joe Biden & Obama, Russia had a field day, taking over important parts of Ukraine - Where’s Hunter? Probably just another phony Times hit job, just like their failed Russia Hoax. Who is their “source”?"


https://apnews.com/a59124b8eb95f6245286ddefe3dd0ffd

From the article:

John Bolton, a former national security adviser who was forced out by Trump last September and has now written a tell-all book about his time at the White House, said Sunday that “it it is pretty remarkable the president’s going out of his way to say he hasn’t heard anything about it, one asks, why would he do something like that?”

Bolton told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that he thinks the answer “may be precisely because active Russian aggression like that against the American service members is a very, very serious matter and nothing’s been done about it, if it’s true, for these past four or five months, so it may look like he was negligent. But of course, he can disown everything if nobody ever told him about it.”
Posted 06/28/2020 04:23PM | Edited 06/28/2020 04:35PM #1
Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

"Nobody briefed or told me, @VPPence, or Chief of Staff @MarkMeadows
about the so-called attacks on our troops in Afghanistan by Russians, as reported through an “anonymous source” by the Fake News
@nytimes  Everybody is denying it & there have not been many attacks on us.....

...Nobody’s been tougher on Russia than the Trump Administration. With Corrupt Joe Biden & Obama, Russia had a field day, taking over important parts of Ukraine - Where’s Hunter? Probably just another phony Times hit job, just like their failed Russia Hoax. Who is their “source”?"


https://apnews.com/a59124b8eb95f6245286ddefe3dd0ffd

From the article:

John Bolton, a former national security adviser who was forced out by Trump last September and has now written a tell-all book about his time at the White House, said Sunday that “it it is pretty remarkable the president’s going out of his way to say he hasn’t heard anything about it, one asks, why would he do something like that?”

Bolton told NBC’s “Meet the Press” that he thinks the answer “may be precisely because active Russian aggression like that against the American service members is a very, very serious matter and nothing’s been done about it, if it’s true, for these past four or five months, so it may look like he was negligent. But of course, he can disown everything if nobody ever told him about it.”


Your header is speculation and probably wrong.  The NY Times is FAMOUS For Lying. They've done it literally hundreds of times, so when you ask "I guess you guys are OK with this too", that is a bullshit question.

The fact that John Bolton is now criticizing the situation claiming that if Trump knew it is remarkable that he's covering it up.  

John Bolton is about as big a war hawk as they come, and he was the pariah of the left, including yourself, and now you're hypocritically going to quote Bolton?

So maybe Bolton knew.  Why wouldn't he if he was part of the administration until pretty recently?  My guess is that John Bolton would have been right on top of it.

Nope, my guess is that this is just more of some NY Times writer "interpreting" the news, rather than reporting on it.  
Posted 06/28/2020 05:44PM #2
Originally Posted by Richard Davis



Nope, my guess is that this is just more of some NY Times writer "interpreting" the news, rather than reporting on it.  

The sources for the story explicitly say that Trump knew since March, yet has not authorized any steps to retaliate, despite being offered multiple options by aides and officials. This reporting is not interpreting; instead, they are merely stating what their sources said. It defies credulity to claim that he did not know. If Trump did not hear about this intelligence, then he is absurdly incompetent. If he did hear about it and did nothing, then he is still ridiculously inept. There is a simple solution to this problem, though, the White House should act swiftly and decisively to retaliate and punish Russia. Trump will not, though, because he's too busy attacking the messenger and inviting Russia to the G8.
Posted 06/28/2020 06:07PM #3
Originally Posted by James Lacey


The sources for the story explicitly say that Trump knew since March, yet has not authorized any steps to retaliate, despite being offered multiple options by aides and officials. This reporting is not interpreting; instead, they are merely stating what their sources said. It defies credulity to claim that he did not know. If Trump did not hear about this intelligence, then he is absurdly incompetent. If he did hear about it and did nothing, then he is still ridiculously inept. There is a simple solution to this problem, though, the White House should act swiftly and decisively to retaliate and punish Russia. Trump will not, though, because he's too busy attacking the messenger and inviting Russia to the G8.
Give me a name.  Oh you can't?? Gee, what a shock, another "unnamed source".  

And yes, they are "interpreting news" not "reporting" news.

The NY Times has had to retract dozens of stories just in the past few years, because they couldn't support what they wrote, and they lied.  

And as for your statements which I placed in bold?  

Your precious Obama feigned ignorance all the time, even saying things such as "I found out about it on the nightly news".  

The most inept President on the planet was never called out by you, or any of your cohorts. 

You were too busy covering for his lies, and they were numerous.  
Posted 06/28/2020 06:19PM | Edited 06/28/2020 06:32PM #4
Originally Posted by James Lacey

It defies credulity to claim that he did not know. If ***** did not hear about this intelligence, then he is absurdly incompetent. If he did hear about it and did nothing, then he is still ridiculously inept.
Ok, since we both Agree that Obama is ridiculously inept and that it defies credulity to claim that Obama did not know, what is the solution for a lying President like Obama?

Do you think it is possible to retroactively Impeach Obama for being such a "ridiculously inept President" ?

Since You and I are finally both on the same page, let me help with evidence to prove our assertion that Obama lied all the time about knowing anything:

https://www.businessinsider.com/obama-doj-ap-phones-2013-5#ixzz2j8SyJzjt

Headline:  The White House Says It Had No Idea The DOJ Seized The AP's Phone Records

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/06/27/carney_obama_didnt_know_about_fast__furious_until_he_saw_it_in_media.html

Headline:  Carney: Obama Didn't Know About Fast & Furious Until He Saw It In Media

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/27/rogers-house-intelligence-chief-nsa-europe/3282161/

Headline:  NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/22/politics/obamacare-sebelius-interview/

Headline:  HHS chief: President didn't know of Obamacare website woes beforehand

https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-claims-he-didn-t-know-about-patreaus-investigation_663400.html

Headline:  Obama claims he didn't know about Petraus Investigation

Here is a specific take down of the NY Times for its forgetfulness about the times they ignored Obama's lies.  

Like I said, and I know that you'll agree with me, the NY Times has ZERO credibility

Here are more lies by Obama from the article below:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/365393-how-quickly-ny-times-forgets-obamas-lies-and-frauds

"Obama responded to Snowden’s stunning revelations of the National Security Agency’s vacuuming up millions of Americans’ personal data  by going on the Jay Leno Show and proclaiming: “There is no spying on Americans.”  Obama’s verbal defenses of NSA spying collapsed like a row of houses of cards.    

In early 2009, Obama visited Mexico and, in a spiel calling for the renewal of the assault weapon ban, asserted that “more than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States.” This vastly overstated the actual problem, since that statistic measured only firearms that Mexican authorities sent to the U.S. for tracing.

Obama’s animosity to the Second Amendment spurred some of his most farcical whoppers. In July 2016, Obama asserted: “We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book.” Glocks are the Lexus of handguns, and a person could buy hundreds of volumes of used books via Amazon for the price of a Glock.

A year earlier, Obama bewailed “neighborhoods where it’s easier for you to buy a handgun and clips than it is for you to buy a fresh vegetable.”  Obama never offered a single example of a locale where carrots are rarer than .38 Specials. But his false claim helped frighten clueless suburbanites to support Obama’s anti-gun agenda.

The Times column lists only one Obama falsehood on the Affordable Care Act: “If you like your doctor, you'll be able to keep your doctor; if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan.”  Obama’s dozens of variations and recitals of this lie were disregarded. The Times also ignored the fact that the ObamaCare legislation was carefully crafted to con Congress and the public. As its intellectual godfather, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, explained:


“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically, that was really, really critical to get this thing to pass.”



Thankfully, for once, you and I Forrest are on the same page!!!  wink
Posted 06/28/2020 06:52PM #5
Hmmm, the OP was about Trump, who is the current president. Care to comment on the current events, or, do you still want to talk about the black guy who used to be president
Posted 06/28/2020 08:29PM | Edited 06/28/2020 08:33PM #6
Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
Hmmm, the OP was about Trump, who is the current president. Care to comment on the current events, or, do you still want to talk about the black guy who used to be president
Why not, you never had the stones before to criticize his lies, but I notice you'll say Trump is the King of Liars.  

It's gotta' suck to be such a massive hypocrite like you are, eh?  wink

And BTW, I already did comment which shut your pie hole down right away didn't it?

You're free to comment on my response to you.

Apparently you can't support you Bullshit can you?  

P.S. I noticed your buddy boy here Forrest didn't want to comment when I shut his pie hole as well.  

Typical libs.  tongue
Posted 06/28/2020 09:24PM #7
Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
Hmmm, the OP was about Trump, who is the current president. Care to comment on the current events, or, do you still want to talk about the black guy who used to be president

Jim,

It's crystal clear that Trump knew. The UK knew. Australia knew. All of our allies in NATO knew. Saying I didn't realize? It is simply not a defensible position for the POTUS. It's an indictment of incompetence.
Posted 06/28/2020 09:59PM #8
Originally Posted by James Lacey


Jim,

It's crystal clear that Trump knew.
The UK knew. Australia knew. All of our allies in NATO knew. Saying I didn't realize? It is simply not a defensible position for the POTUS. It's an indictment of incompetence.
No, it's just more NY Times unsubstantiated BS. 

Neither You or the other leftist here can provide any name that would confirm it.  

Most likely made up BS from NY Times.  

Any response to Obama's numerous lies?  

No?   wink
Posted 06/29/2020 09:05PM #9
Originally Posted by Richard Davis

No, it's just more NY Times unsubstantiated BS. 

Neither You or the other leftist here can provide any name that would confirm it.  

Most likely made up BS from NY Times.  

Any response to Obama's numerous lies?  

No?   wink
Yeah, right and that's why the Trump administration is only briefing  Republicans on it...
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/29/nancy-pelosi-demands-briefing-russian-bounties-344219