Dave,Originally Posted by David Cotterell
In Dayton, good guys with guns killed the perp after only 30 seconds! Yay! chalk one up for Rich!
During those 30 seconds he shot 9 people dead and another 26 were wounded... a rate of fire faster than 1 per second..
What if the best rifle he could by was a rifle like my uncle's old hunting rifle where you pulled back a bolt, stuck a single bullet in, shoved the bolt forward then pulled the trigger......4 or 5 seconds between shots at least......maybe someone could have tackled him after the first or second shot, brained him with a chair or whatever...less carnage.... (my uncle was a good hunter with that - he got his deer every year....)
I do not wish to get into labelling guns as assault weapons or military style or whatever some folks call them - the debate devolves into a 'tastes great, less filling' labelling argument instead of hitting the main point. It's high rates of fire and huge clips/magazines holding 20-30 or more rounds that are one of the main problems no matter what you call the guns...Rifles that can get off a round a second need banning 100%. Clips holding more than 3 bullets need 100% banning. Or no clips at all for rifles... Make licensing for firearms at least as difficult and time consuming as licensing for an amateur radio license....make meaningful background checks and long waiting periods part of the process... (the Dayton perp had a history in high school of making lists of people he wanted to kill and girls he wanted to assault...this should be part of his permanent record - should have been no guns for this guy, there was a police record of these offences....here - https://news.yahoo.com/classmate-says-dayton-shooter-targeted-180053657.html;_ylt=AwrCxnWod0hdY0YA.AIXFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw-- )
But he got a high-rate-of-fire rifle, big clips and ammo because IF he had a background check at all, it was not nearly thorough enough...
Dave
Americans will think you are not a reasonable man if they hear you say our old western six gun also has a rate of fire that is too fast for you. How quickly should somebody be able to fire a second round? Ten seconds?
Outlawing 20-30 round magazines does not help your side as much as you feel it will. Small magazines with 10 rounds can be loaded into the gun in two seconds. A six gun can be reloaded in one movement faster than you would think using a small piece of thin metal called a speed loader.
