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Started by ref68, 12/25/2009 01:38PM
Posted 12/25/2009 01:38PM Opening Post
Hi, I always have some thing new don’t I?

As a Muslim we believe in all revelations Qur’an Gospel Torah
But only on Original.
We are not Against the bible but we are against the changes of original teachings!

I wish Christian and Jews believe about Mohammed as much and the same as we believe about Moses and Jesus. Than everyone is a Muslim (Islam mean to obey God any way)
Even in today’s text of the bible people staying a way from a true teaching when comes to a Christmas Some Muslims celebrate Mohammed’s Birthday to but Muhammad himself never recommended and lot of Muslims scholars disagree with calibrating prophets birthday reason is thing becoming out of original teaching of prophets .
How ever let talk about donation
I believe original Christmas should be all about feeding the poor people and not wasting money for the one do not need help.
But when comes to self pleasure reason people twist situation.
How carefully people are about this verses of the bible how often even preaches mention this verses?
I was in church with my friend few times never heard one watching preaches on TV never heard one issue about how to be kind all I here is a stories .
Well the point of the stories is we need to fallow the examples of the prophets and not just to have fun with history.

[COLOR="Blue"]And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, [COLOR="Fuchsia"]than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God[/COLOR]. Matthew 19:24 (Read all of Matthew 19)

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Mark 10:25 (Read all of Mark 10)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"]He answereth and saith unto them, [COLOR="Fuchsia"]He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none[/COLOR]; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise LUKE 3:11[/COLOR]===================================================

Here a letter from my friend.
Hi Refet,
I agree with you that the point of Christmas has been lost, it's buried beneath Santa's and stores screaming at you to Shop, Shop, Shop....this is the fault of capitalism and poor morals
I hope you and your family have a blessed season
As far as a miracle birth no problem!

let remember his birth with Qur'an.

[COLOR="Green"]Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. Qur'an 3: 45[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Green"]She said: "O my Lord! [COLOR="Fuchsia"]How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?[/COLOR]" He said: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is! Qur'an 3:47 [/COLOR]

"[COLOR="Green"]And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the [COLOR="Fuchsia"]Law and the Gospel,[/COLOR] Qur'an 3:48

[COLOR="Green"]And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.Qur'an 3:54
[/COLOR][COLOR="Green"]Behold! Allah said: "[COLOR="Fuchsia"]O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme[/COLOR]; [COLOR="Blue"]I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith[/COLOR], to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute. Qur'an 3: 55 [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Green"][COLOR="Fuchsia"]The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; [/COLOR]He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. Qur'an 3 :59[/COLOR]

as far the son thing is all the translation problem of the bible.the bible said the daved is bigoten son,
Adam is son of God sons of god , Jesus in the bible said I'm son of man.
see son basecally means God's servent in Islam we calle it a Abdullad and we all should try to be abdullah .
son term in the bible has NOTHING TO DO WITH BIRTH OF JESUS peace be upon all of them.

[COLOR="Blue"]116 And they say: Allah has begotten a son[/COLOR] (children or offspring) . Glory be to Him (Exalted be He above all that they associate with Him). Nay, [COLOR="Fuchsia"]to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth, and all surrender with obedience[/COLOR] (in worship) to Him.
117 The Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it: "Be!" - and it is. Qur'an 2:116-117
in this Book is a clear logic think about it no changes has been taking.

Marry christmas

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Posted 12/25/2009 06:35PM #1
What is your interpretation of the "camel to go thru the eye of a needle" verse?