Originally Posted by David Cotterell
"That's the Law of the land. I accept the law of the land" until this week when he didn't accept the law of the land.
"It's settled as a precedent of the Supreme Court" until this week when he unsettled it.
"Roe v. Wade clearly held that the Constitution protected a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy" until this week when she decided the Constitution did not protect a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy.
EAch of the three decided this week to turn 100% against what they said in their confirmation hearings. Not a lie? OK. Misdirection, then? Fingers crossed behind the back? Pinky swear?
If any of these candidates had said at their hearing, "I'm going to vote against Roe v. Wade the very first chance I get" would they have been confirmed?
If I had stated in a teaching job interview that I would only teach the required curriculum, nothing more, nothing less, and got the job as a result of that declaration and then taught stuff clearly NOT on the curriculum at the expense of some other material that was on the curriculum was I lying in the interview? Damn straight I was and I would be subject to firing.
They lied. To get on the court while their agenda all along was to vote down Roe v. Wade.
And, as for the Gilead reference - some states are partway there already - murder charges for miscarriages are a thing now in some states. Citizens can get a reward for snitching on a woman for going out of state to get an abortion in some states, the woman facing criminal charges as a result. The teaching of factual history about slavery or the Native Residential Schools can cost a teacher his/her job in some states.. If Clarence Thomas' pledge to re-visit sodomy laws, contraception availability and gay marriage then some states for sure will pass laws to outlaw these practices.. Earlier this week the separation of Church and State was weakened by the Maine school funding decision. And behind all of this sits 'Christian Theocratic Conservatism', smiling sweetly and drooling for the day that they can take over out in the open and re-open their Gay Conversion Therapy Camps and have cops busting motel doors in because someone inside is engaging in oral sex and make it legal to fire or not hire LGBTQ+ people or not serve customers who are 'undesirables' due to their skin tone or their spiritual practices or lack thereof. Gilead - but the term 'Theocracy' is just as valid. That's where you are headed. One SCOTUS decision at a time...
You are being disingenuous Dave. When a senator asked, prior to Friday, if "Roe is the law of the land," or "settled precedent," or if "Roe v. Wade held that the Constitution protected a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy" the only honest answer was "Yes." These candidates did not lie.
If the senator then asked whether the candidate agreed with the reasoning behind Roe, and whether they would vote to overturn Roe (and they did), the universal answer is "I refuse to comment on cases that I may have to decide." Sorry, but that is the way the game is played by both sides. I can make the historical case that this charade in the hearings is the Democrat's fault. See Bork and Thomas.
Go back and review the entire testimony of all post-Thomas confirmation hearings and you will see that I am correct. Anyone who argues that these candidates mislead in their testimony is pretending that they do no understand how the game is played. Every intelligent person on the committees and those of us who followed the confirmation hearings knew that the risk of these justices voting to overturn Roe was extremely high. For some of these folks to now say that the justices "lied" is BS of the highest order. It is political gamesmanship, and you appear to be buying it. It is hard to believe you are serious.
In one sentence, do you think that any of these justices promised not to overturn Roe?
Seriously? If they did, why did they get zero support from the left?
Why do you think that only 1 or 2 or zero D's voted to confirm these justices?
Have you read the Handmaids Tale? I have, and enjoyed it. There is little like Gilead going on in the United States. It is a crap metaphor for our time of women's rights. You and those wearing handmaid's costumes act as if universal abortion is the only
right a woman might have or might care about. J