Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

You said that Gohmert claimed that the FBI perpetrated Jan 6th.

And that's a lie, you're a liar and you can't help yourself.  

Gohmert: "Whether they were actual agents, or an undercover agents, or informants THAT WERE WORKING FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT"
You're the the liar here and so is Gohmert and his friend, Tucker Carlson who peddled this horseshit. And where did he get this crap? From Tucker:""FBI operatives were organizing the attack on the Capitol on January 6," Carlson said without evidence. "... It turns out that this 'white supremacist insurrection' was -- again, by the government's own admission in these documents -- was organized at least in part by government agents."
He later claimed there were "FBI operatives that rioted on January 6." The on-screen graphic for part of the segment read, "LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PARTICIPATED IN JAN 6."
Over and over, Carlson went farther than the original article with his direct and explicit claims against the FBI."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/17/politics/tucker-carlson-capitol-insurrection-conspiracy/index.html

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

You said Gohmert told us all that the Jan 6 riot was "perpetrated by the FBI".

He never stated that which means you lied.  You're a liar and I called you on it Weasel, plain and simple.  

Here he is in his own words, also claiming they were in on the plot to kidnap governor Whitmer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCHL2GEO9hw

Words to the effect of, "Democrats have to get it through their heads that 70% of something is better than 100% of nothing."
Right now, Democrats are their own worst enemies as they bicker and fight amongst themselves over the build back better package. I gotta hand it to the Republicans, they pretty much march goose step together even though they actually accomplish very little, if anything, for the middle class, particularly in the red states that keep them in office. But they recognize the value in a unified message, however bogus it might be, and they stick by it no matter what...

Who decided to separate families:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44303556

"The Obama administration did not separate families as a matter of policy, as the Trump administration did as part of its “zero tolerance” border policy in 2018, but separations occurred on a case-by-case basis for parents being prosecuted on more serious charges than illegally crossing the border or in cases when an adult was suspected of not being a child’s parent, according to CNN.
"Children were also placed in cages in some cases under the Obama administration"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461230-biden-incorrectly-claims-obama-administration-didnt-separate-families

As for illegal aliens voting in federal elections, they didn't:
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/07/28/no-evidence-viral-claim-22-million-illegal-immigrants-voting-illegal-vote/5399633001/
And they can't:
" Noncitizens voting in federal elections remains illegal nationwide."

Do you think I'm going to read your psycho-babble?

"A jury in Washington state awarded $17.3 million in back pay to immigrants who were denied the minimum wage while working at a detention center,"
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/30/politics/washington-jury-awards-tacoma-immigrant-detainees/index.html

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Not sure you are up to speed on this one Jim......as I understand it the proposed $$ figures have nothing to do with lawsuits. From what I have seen Lets Go Brandon and his administration proposed $450,000 per family member be paid out to families who were separated by US Law.....which should average a million or more per family or perhaps I have not looked deep enough and that is what they proposed as a settlement offer? Either way it is by far the stupidest idea I have seen come out of this administration so far......

See post #1 from James:
"The ACLU and others are suing the federal government, and the amounts they are discussing so far are preliminary and primarily early speculation."

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Having a Biden moment Rod?.....post #1 is Richard's not James's

Are you having the same reading and comprehension problem as Richie? The initial post in the thread is called, "The Opening Post" while the first post in response is numbered, "#1". Got it now?

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Yep....I stand corrected on the post numbering thingie.....

However what I saw said Lets Go Brandon and company were proposing $450k per family member.....that hasnt changed and James didnt even mention any amounts in his post #1

A consideration of an amount in the settlement of a lawsuit is just that, a consideration and nothing has been settled. Here's the latest as of 3 days ago from TheHill:
"The ACLU is still battling its lawsuit with the Biden administration and according to the Journal, not all the families it’s representing will be eligible for a potential financial settlement."
"The Office of the Inspector General conducted a review of the Justice Department's zero tolerance policy and found that under former attorney general Jeff Sessions, the agency “failed to effectively prepare for, or manage, the implementation of the zero tolerance policy.”
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/579011-biden-administration-considering-giving-450000-per-person

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

LOL ya'll need to stop deflecting.....Biden is screwing the pooch in every direction he turns and you know it....whining about Trump isnt hiding anything

Don't worry Greg. Moscow Mitch is on it! Here he is with his righteous indignation:  https://thehill.com/policy/international/579531-mcconnell-blasts-potential-payments-to-separated-migrant-families
Of course, he was perfectly fine with all that led up to it when the Republicans controlled it...