Posts Made By: S Wagner
August 31, 2011 10:45 AM Forum: Politics
September 8, 2011 12:55 PM Forum: Politics
Posted By S Wagner
Dave Snope said:
When even the Washington Post calls Obama a 4-pinnochio liar, you know it beyond spinning. 4 Pinocchios is a bald-faced lie on the WaPo fact check scale.
â€œWe said working folks deserved a break, so within one month of me taking office, we signed into law the biggest middle-class tax cut in history, putting more money into your pockets.â€?
â€” President Obama, Sept. 5, 2011
John F. Kennedy seems to win the prize for biggest tax cut, at least in the last half century. By the same measure, the income tax provisions of George W. Bush tax cuts are more than twice as large as Obamaâ€™s tax cut over the same three-year time span. (Yes, a large portion of Bushâ€™s tax cut went to the wealthy, but it also benefited the working poor. We still donâ€™t know what Obama means by â€œmiddle class,â€? since his definition also seems to include the working poor.)
Incidentally, the report that the administration official cited as â€œoutside validationâ€? for the 95 percent statistic just mentioned it as an aside. We checked with one of the co-authors, and he said the source for the figure was a White House fact sheet.
Obamaâ€™s claim of having passed the â€œbiggest middle-class tax cut in historyâ€? is ridiculous. He might have been on more solid ground if he had claimed the â€œbroadestâ€? tax cut, but that doesnâ€™t sound very historic.
We went back and forth over whether this was a three or four Pinocchio violation, until we found evidence that Obama knew he was saying a whopper. Hereâ€™s how he put it in his 2010 State of the Union speech: â€œWe cut taxes for 95 percent of working families.â€? That phrasing, at least, would not have been so misleading.
And this from WaPo! They're turning on themselves, folks... the end may (hopefully!) be in sight...
September 9, 2011 09:00 AM Forum: Politics
Posted By S Wagner
Dale Conrad said:
Looks like the administration is bound and determined to drive another American company out of the country. 8O 8O
Martin is a large contributor to the Obamanation... look it up... same S---, Different Day
Sadly, Palin (shock) is looking EVER more right when she talks about the "Permanent Political Class" and especially the Crony Capitalism...
Source (believe it or not!!!)the NYT! http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/10/us/10iht-currents10.html?src=tp&smid=fb-share
October 6, 2011 10:21 AM Forum: Politics
October 11, 2011 01:53 PM Forum: Politics
October 14, 2011 08:01 AM Forum: Politics
Posted By S Wagner
David Cotterell said:
The various graphs (see link below) clearly show what the core of the 'Occupy' movement have in their sights. Of course numerous fringe loonie/anarchists attach themselves to any street event and drag the protest awry (G20 Toronto, Vancouver Stanlry Cup Riot etc.,). This should not completely disguise the real situation. The graphs show a painful and shameful progression towards the financial separation of American society - a small financial oligarchy* at the top, isolated and insulated from the rest of the population who only exist as labor and middle management for the benefit of the folks at the top of the heap.
I continually find it very strange that middle class Republicans, Tea Partiers and other Conservatives continue to support a party that shows such utter disdain for their core support group in favor of the uber-rich, CEO's and those nice 'people' - the corporations. You're voting for a Party that is turning America into a giant 'gated community' and the vast majority of your Party's supporters are locked outside the gate forever, and they know it and they still vote Republican. Amazing!
* I know there's a better term for this concept. Is it hegemony? or some other ______-archy?
Perhaps you still don't "get it"...
That is why many of us are supporting the TEA party... for its return to true, constitutionally sound/driven government... We are NOT supporting the RINOs! (because they are indeed, little better than the lefties in what is left of the Demosocialistive party...
The "uber rich" are puppet masters of BOTH traditional parties... Soros, and his ilk on the left political establishment, and the Koch's and their ilk on the country-club/RINO republican establishment.
Pox on all government enabled corruption and wealth confiscation! This is why Ron Paul and, more recently, Herman Cain ARE resonating...
Flat tax! NO EXCEPTIONS. No exceptions means no opportunity for the rich (of any political bent) to "influence" and "game" the system. And, it means that companies like GE (and Immelt!) *WILL* pay taxes on Billions of profits.
Of the two parties, it is only the Republicans who can possibly be "recovered" by the TEA movement; the Democrats are too far down the socialist/progressive slide into intellectual oblivion. The 2010 Congressional elections demonstrated this in action.
TEA is about RECOVERING the Republican party to it's true-conservative roots... Why do we believe this way? Because to try and do a 3rd party GUARANTEES a victory by the leftists! All politics, at the end of the day, must be pragmatic...
October 21, 2011 07:12 AM Forum: Politics
November 14, 2011 06:49 AM Forum: Politics
Posted By S Wagner
david elosser said:
Okay, so the Congressional Budget Office got it wrong for once. They predicted that once [SIZE="Large"]Ã¸[/SIZE]bamacare was passed, 6 million more people would have employer-sponsered health insurance by now. But instead 4.5 million have lost their employer-sponsered health care coverage. In fact, the percentage of the population that is uninsured according to Gallup has risen from 14.6% to 17.3%. But, hey, whose counting anyway? No one's paying attention to that health care stuff anyway, are they? I mean, the allegded sexual exploits of the Republican candadites for president are far more interesting, right?
Obama lied. People (without health insurance) have no doubt died.
"Socialism Kills" - pass it on
December 14, 2011 03:00 PM Forum: Politics
December 14, 2011 03:11 PM Forum: Politics
Posted By S Wagner
Michael Koons said:
Well I have been in the business world since 1990 after leaving the Naval Nuclear Power Program.
First business 1990-1998, sold to a public company. 1999-present building new company. The health care renewals have always been my responsibility.
Some key facts.
1999 our family rate was $339 per month.
Our increases have been from 7-23% since.
Last years family rate was $997.
We have 16 employees.
Healthcare consumes 7% of our gross profit up from 2.5% in 1999.
Last year Obamacare earned us a 25% credit for our healthcare bill.
This year I just got our renewal and competitive quotes as in ALL prior years.
The competitive quote we received from Blue Cross this year was 24% less than our current providor.
Our scheduled increase from our current provider was 7.7%. They are willing to negotiate.
A good friend had the same 7.7% from the same provider and had it negotiated down to 3.5%. It was the first time in 20 years he had them negotiate and cut the increase. It was also the first instance that his increase was less than 5%.
Is the healthcare reform working?
My partner and I are absolutely stunned.....
We think this is some preliminary posturing to seal a chunck of business before the insurance pools or exchanges form.
Your comments, particularly recent experience with health care rates appreciated.
Well, since it hasn't actually STARTED yet, how can "it be working"?
My experience here in Massachusetts (the only state WITH a mandate currently) is that it changed the pricing increase vector not one iota...
I *just* got OFF having my company have to pay healthcare; we sold out and I now work for another company (Iowa based) who provides group private health insurance...
but the last 4.5 years I continually saw double-digit percentage increases in my companies healthcare costs (BCBS MA)...
So I'd say the evidence is simply not there that "it works"... rather it hasn't started to FAIL (yet)...
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