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Need help with dovetail systems

Started by tomhole, 08/04/2003 02:18AM
Posted 08/04/2003 02:18AM Opening Post
First some background. That spiffy new goto GEM that Jon Davis is building me now needs a way to attach a telescope to it. John has asked me to send him whatever saddle plate I would like installed so he can put it on. "What in blazes is a saddle plate?" (asked in my best Slim Pickens impression). So, I need some help. I don't know squat about dovetail mounting systems.

Here's what I think I know:

1. You need a saddle plate on the mount
2. You need a dovetail bar that the scope rings mount to

Now that I've summed it all up, it looks like I know less than I thought.

Some questions:

1. Do I need a dovetail mount?
2. Do all mounts have a dovetail system?
3. If not, what did you put on your mount to quickly remove the OTA?

Here's what I could find as options for a dovetail mounting system on the GI-1 Abrams mount (or any mount for that matter):

Losmandy GM-8
Losmandy G-11
William Optics Dovetail System
Can't figure out if Vixen dovetail is proprietary or what

I like the GM-8 option because it's cheap ($52 for the saddle plate) but is it strong enough to hold 35 lbs? I also couldn't figure out whether the GM8 saddle plate accepted the standard Losmandy dovetails. I'm all cornfused. I wish there were a telescope shop nearby so I could go by and figure out what I want, but there isn't so I can't and that's bad.

So, help me buy something to send to John to put on my fancy new mount. PLEEEAAASSSEEE!!!!

Clear skies,

Tom
Posted 08/04/2003 03:26AM #1
Tom,

I don't know enough about all of those different systems. But I do know that if you are going to go the Losmandy route, go with the G-11 saddle/dovetails. Why? First, for a 35-lb payload you need a sturdier dovetail than the GM-8 dovetails. Second, I *think* Scott (Losmandy) has merged the saddles for the GM-8 and G-11 to use the "D"-series (G-11) dovetail.

Given all that I've said, I just today ordered one of Robin Casady's "tip in" saddles (http://www.robincasady.com) for my G-11; I have a ~45lb-OTA being delivered soon (I hope I hope) and the thought of trying to "thread" a weighty OTA/dovetail into the saddle (in the dark, no less) is not appealing.

Regards,
Lou
Posted 08/04/2003 11:12PM #2

You can get standardized dovetail mounts at any gun shop.

The sizes are smaller, individually, than big custom telescope mounts. But they're cheap. Strong. Hardened steel.

I use two four-inchers mounted side-by-side 2" apart. It looks like they could take 100#. The base is 1/4" aluminum cut 4" wide by 6" long.