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Which exit pupil would you choose? 2.2 or 1.85?

Started by stedman, 06/17/2006 04:53PM
Posted 06/17/2006 04:53PM | Edited 06/17/2006 04:56PM Opening Post
I've read with interest the various threads about optimal exit pupils. There seems be a consensus, albeit with some variation/dissent, that a 2mm exit pupil is about ideal for much DSO observing.

Have an f/5.4 dob. Ended up with 12mm and 10mm eyepieces, which give me exit pupils of 2.2 and 1.85. In other words, straddling the "ideal".

In your experience, which will serve me better? Would you go higher or lower for your workhorse eyepiece?

How much depends on sky conditions? I preume that darker skies would tolerate the smaller e.p. better, but I'm under small city suburban, semi light polluted skies, perhaps mag 4.5 skies when transparent with Milky Way somewhat visible.

I also presume that one's eye make a difference... young eyes with bright pupils probably can go deeper, with smaller exit pupils, and see more with darker, more magnified views. Old geezers, which is more what I am, probably do better with larger exit pupils and less magnified and, therefore, brighter views.

I'll likely keep both, but as they are $ eyepieces, I may replace one of them with a less expensive eyepiece in the same f.l. or barlow another premo eyepiece to get to the f.l. of the one I'd sell.

The question arises from an observing session early this morning in which I was struck by how different the Ring Nebula appeared in 14mm, 12mm, and 10mm. I found it at 26mm, jumped to 10mm, was initially impressed by the view, but then the 12mm really knocked my socks off with a real glowing ring. The 14mm was a pale third, showing a smaller, less distinct object. (Of course, I discovered later this morning that the 14mm had some minor, left over condensation on it from a session a week ago. That may have dimmed the views.)

Any thoughts?
Posted 06/19/2006 12:59AM | Edited 06/19/2006 01:00AM #1
10 and 12mm is pretty close, and I doubt there's any way to come to a definitive answer as to which one will serve you better. The 2mm rule certainly isn't so firm that a few tenths of a millimeter one way or the other is crucial. The best thing to do is live with both and see which one you end up using more.

It would also depend on what other eyepieces you have. If you have a 14mm that you plan on keeping, the 10mm is a pretty useful jump up; 12mm is too close to make much of a difference in magnification.

Posted 06/19/2006 02:22AM #2
How much depends on sky conditions? I preume that darker skies would tolerate the smaller e.p. better, but I'm under small city suburban, semi light polluted skies, perhaps mag 4.5 skies when transparent with Milky Way somewhat visible.
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My experience suggests the opposite, light pollution means pushing to higher magnifications so that the background is darker.

>>> I also presume that one's eye make a difference... young eyes with bright pupils probably can go deeper, with smaller exit pupils, and see more with darker, more magnified views. Old geezers, which is more what I am, probably do better with larger exit pupils and less magnified and, therefore, brighter views.
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My intuition tells me, old geezers like us probably need the smaller exit pupils because their resolution is poorer....

My thinking: The difference between 2.2mm and 1.85m exit pupils is quite minimal, it really boils down to the particular eyepiece and particular target, which one gives you the views that you like???

Jon