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Another pier design to critique

Started by jeyjey, 08/04/2005 02:16PM
Posted 09/01/2005 12:07PM | Edited 09/01/2005 12:08PM #20
Here in Ireland, we call the plywood forms used for pouring concrete "shuttering". I always thought shutters went on either side of a window, but live and learn.

I used stakes to hold the shuttering -- while it worked out OK in the end, they were a real pain to get in where I wanted them and to get them tight. Looking back, I think some 15" pieces of 1/2" rebar would have done much better (the stakes tend to go off course as you're hammering them in). I was also staking into the topsoil just outside the circle I had dug, so the soil wanted to push into the hardcore filling the hole. Longer rebar could have gone straight down through the hardcore and into the dirt below it.

Lesson #2: don't cut your steel with an angle grinder over the plastic. The sparks burn little holes right through. I had to re-sheet part of it.

(If you look really closely, you can also see where the crows pecked out the top 1/2" of styrofoam isolation. :S )

Anyway, here it is, ready to go:

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Posted 09/02/2005 05:16PM #21
A mate and I spent about 4 hours mixing concrete, and another couple of hours leveling and then polishing the surface. Considering neither of us had ever done this before, it all went quite smoothly, and the results appear quite good.

This first shot shows a bit of fairly dry concrete under the steel to keep it up off the plastic.

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Posted 09/05/2005 06:44PM #22
I finally got a few quotes on the steel pier. There's a lot of variability in the costs due to different shops having off-cuts on hand or having to order in 6m lengths of pipe, but that can't explain all the difference. (I'll have to write the rest down to rip-off Ireland.) Anyway, the quotes (with deltas from specification noted):

* €2200 stainless steel (4mm instead of 9 - 15mm wall thickness)

* €1090 galvanized

* €585 galvanized (8.5" instead of 10" pipe)

* €395 galvanized (16mm instead of 20mm base plate)

So much for stainless not being too much more sad



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Posted 09/05/2005 06:46PM | Edited 09/05/2005 07:26PM #23
This thread's getting a wee bit long, so I'll continue with the observatory framing here:
http://www.astromart.com/forums/viewpost.asp?forum_post_id=365122

-- Jeff