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Cool Mirror Themal Issues

Started by Buck8one2, 08/01/2007 04:45PM
Posted 08/01/2007 04:45PM Opening Post
Hi Folks
We've all heard about scope thermals, mirror equilibrium, boundary layers, cooling fans and the like. We also have read many threads about having to let the mirror cool down before getting the best use views possible. Most all of these issues pertain to getting the mirror cooled down when setting up with the scope going from a warm house to a cooler outside or cooling it as the temperature drops. So my question is, what happens when taking a scope out from a cool house to a hotter outside? I’m not talking about condensing water like on an ice-cold beverage or anything that drastic. More like from low 70’s inside going outside the low 90’s with temps dropping slowly. I’ve never really looked to see, but rather just went with the flow and let it cool down like everyone says, even though it’s actually warming up. I’ve never noticed dew or condensation forming when I setup in the evening down here in the south. Would there be thermals, or a boundary layer? It seems to me there would be some movement of air but more like current mixing and not really developing into currents that would cause big issues so I don’t see where fans would speed this up to any extent. Any ideas or thoughts? Or is this not really an issue to be worried about like the warm mirror side of the issue.
Buck
Posted 08/01/2007 06:22PM #1
I expect there will still be boundary layer issues -- there
will be a layer of cold air against the glass which will flow
downwards and off the mirror. The layer will not be tempted
to rise, but instead will stay against the glass and be more
uniform, so probably the optical issues are less than for
a warm mirror.

The other major problem -- tube currents -- will be virtually
gone. Instead of warm air traveling up the tube, there
will only be homogeneous air falling down the tube to the
mirror and out the back of the scope.
Posted 08/05/2007 11:05PM #2
Hi folks

One little detail:
Depending on the size of the optic, the glass will tend to deform while reaching for normalization. This happens whether too cool or too hot.
However, the smaller the mirror the faster it'll react and obtain normalization. Also it depends on the material the mirrors are made of.
Plate glass and Bk 7 are slowest
Pyrex is quicker
and quartz is even faster.
So much for trivia, just blast it with air from as many fans as are available. wink
Dave