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Mirror clips ?

Started by progenitor, 08/19/2006 07:23AM
Posted 08/19/2006 07:23AM | Edited 08/19/2006 08:01AM Opening Post
Mirror clips have been in my understanding detrimental for a perfect picture by increasing diffraction. On the ad for a telescope from a famous maker on AM, I noted hefty clips on the picture. Also, CPT's aluminium mirror cell has clips.
What is your take on clips ?
I am mentally preparing list of features for my future 12.5" thin (1") mirror reflector.
Posted 08/19/2006 11:07AM #1
I personally feel mirror clips should be avoided, if possible.
The area they block and diffract is small -- perhaps 1% or 2%
of the aperture. But on the other hand, these days we seem
to revel in, and sometimes insist on, mirrors with Strehl
ratios of 99% or better. What sense does it make to have a
mirror with 99.9% Strehl and then diffract 1% or 2% of the
light all over the place will mirror clips?

You will also find well-known makers that avoid mirror clips.
For example, Peter Smitka's PortaBalls scopes attach the
mirror on the rear and sides with silicon cement. There are
also increasing numbers of scopes where the mirror is
mounted through some central hole (in the shadow of the
secondary) -- most SCTs, several Intes scopes, Royce
conical mirrors, etc.

But I will concede that clips cannot always be avoided.
If a scope will be rough-handled (transport, shipping,
etc.) with the mirror installed, it probably makes sense
to have the added security that clips afford. I note that
most of the Chinese Newts I've seen have big clips with
big fat rubber pads -- these might make sense if you
are shipping a scope from China. Also you don't need to
wait for silicon to set-up, etc., an advantage if you are
trying to make a lot of scopes in a hurry.

You can also try to minimize the clips. For example,
my StarMaster 11 came with big husky clips rectangular
clips that blocked about 1" x 1/2" each. But I long ago
replaced these with rounded ones that only block 3/4" x 1/8".
Given that the mirror is concave, and reasonably well
constrained from side-ways motion, big clips don't
really add much to the mirror's security.
Posted 08/19/2006 06:01PM #2
My Famous Name as you described also came with hunky rectangular clips. I sanded them down to a smaller size and rounded the ends that go over the mirror.

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