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Discovering NGC 2477

Started by Herbert Kraus, 03/27/2008 11:18PM
Posted 03/27/2008 11:18PM Opening Post
Earlier this week I did some star-gazing at the Cottonwood Springs area of Joshua Tree National Park, where I spent an evening methodically seeking out galactic clusters in the Monoceros-Puppis region. The sky was reasonably dark and the seeing was generally fair, neither the best nor the worst I have encountered in several years of winter-time observing at that location. I will not burden you with a detailed report, but I will mention one open cluster that I had not seen before and that immediately became one of my favorites. It's NGC 2477 in Puppis, which has probably not made it into the Herschel 400 only because of its southerly location at declination -38ยบ, although Patrick Moore included it as item #71 of his "Caldwell" objects. This brilliant cluster immediately reminded me of two long-time favorites of mine, NGC 7789 in Cassiopeia and M37 in Auriga. These three are all enormous swarms of hundreds of suns which are near and extensive enough to be individually resolved in reasonably dark skies, but the great majority of which appear to lie within a narrow range of rather faint visual magnitudes, avoiding the appearance of a scattered handfull of sparklers in a sea of nebulosity. NGC 2477 filled about half of my 20 mm eyepiece's 30-arcminute field of view. Archinal & Hynes says this cluster includes 1,911 stars within a diameter of 20 arcminutes and with a total visual magnitude of 5.8. The equivalent ratings for NGC 7789 are 583 stars, 25 arcminutes and magnitude 6.7; and for M37 they are 1,842 stars, 15 arcminutes and magnitude 5.6. I recommend NGC 2477 to any observer of galactic clusters for whom it is within reach, and for those of you located too far north for this cluster I suggest that you put it on the agenda for your next trip to the south.

NexStar 8i SCT, Orion 80ED APO refractor, Orion 120 mm EQ refractor, 3.5-inch Questar
Posted 03/28/2008 04:50AM #1
Herbert,
I am right by you on this smokin' object! I live at 36 deg north at 7000 feet, and can see down that way fairly well. Not long ago I went to a place with a good southern horizon and explored this area. I'd sit in a lawn chair with a 10x50 binocular, and when I thought I saw something, check it out in my 6-inch Newtonian set up. Then I'd check the chart to see what it was. Some fun, huh?

The find of the night was 2477. A bright circular blur in the binocular, and the near twin of M37 in the scope. It even contained the curiously common bright red member. I also noticed curving dark lanes, sort of like in 7789.

Tonight I discovered to my delight that I can see it from my backyard, and that with a mere 16x70 binocular, I can glimpse sparkly things in there with averted vision.

But, a question. I've seen this listed as both a globular and an open. It's pretty much round, I guess, but looks open to me. Do you know for sure it's "open"? I guess a smart astronomer with a Hertzsprung-Russell diagram of the stars could make the scientific decision.
Thanks,
Ron
Posted 03/28/2008 06:50AM #2
Herbert,

Did you notice a chain of stars to the North, like a tail of a stingray?

Dmitri
Posted 03/28/2008 07:28AM #3
See my comments at http://www.astromart.com/forums/viewpost.asp?forum_post_id=506576

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