I saw the Veil without a filter in the ST80 (12.5x) last night. I even found it that way and had to put in a filter to verify what I was seeing. I then verified what I was seeing and got a better view with a 6" scope. I guess it gets easier with practice, since that's something I had a real hard time finding last year without a filter.
Charlie
Charlie
Fort Lewis Observatory: (37.238, -108.052) ~2360m (7744 ft.) elevation.
Darkness - typically 6.5+
Scope - Meade 16" LX200; f6.3 focal reducer
Focus - JMI Smart focus
Camera - SBIG ST-10XE; (~.5"/pixel)
Guiding - AO-8 and/or Meade 5"/DSI/PHD
http://www.fortlewis.edu/observatory