I decided to purchase a pair of the Minox BD 10x25 BR weatherproof (but not waterproof) compact binoculars, over the Zeiss and Leitz in part because they were 1/3 the price, but also because they promised a bit more eye relief (I wear fairly thick glasses), and had a closer focus.
The eye relief seems almost too much! Clearly at a marked 17 mm, it's functionally more than that on the Eagle Optics Ranger 8 x 32 I have, which are marked for 16 mm. The feel of the rubber coating is very good, not only on my fingers, but where the eyecups contact my glasses.
The specifications marked on the data sheet indicated a close focus not of 3 meters or so, but 1.6 meters! I have just tried them, and can report that the close focus is right around 5.25 feet, MUCH less than what any website source indicated, including that of the manufacturer!
On the downside, the rather small diameter focusing wheel seems very stiff. Hopefully, this will loosen usefully with usage. Also, the 3/32" neckcord I find just barely adequate, creating a "toe out" carry position, so the thin cord may be useful mainly for safety purposes, but not for any extended carrying around the neck.
The thin strap attached to the tubes on my older Minolta 8 x 24's seems much more comfortable, though I suspect the Minox are optically better. By the way, one can make the Minox ride "toe in," by putting them over one's neck "backwards," then bringing them up to the eyes in a "crossdraw" fashion.
The supplied padded nylon belt case is excellent, and includes an outside slit pocket (into which I have put my business card), though I suspect it was meant as a secure storage area for the eyepiece caps.
These will not be my primary birding binoculars, but for their intended purpose, every day briefcase carrying, I think they should work well. Locally much of the casual birding would be of birds that gather, usually of course on the FAR side, of various ponding basins used locally for groundwater recharge, and flood control. That makes 10X more useful than 8X. For walking around my neighborhood, on the other hand, I think I'd prefer my 8 x 32's, due to the better strap, wider field, and likely much more close range peering upwards.
Alan Birnbaum
Fresno, CA
The eye relief seems almost too much! Clearly at a marked 17 mm, it's functionally more than that on the Eagle Optics Ranger 8 x 32 I have, which are marked for 16 mm. The feel of the rubber coating is very good, not only on my fingers, but where the eyecups contact my glasses.
The specifications marked on the data sheet indicated a close focus not of 3 meters or so, but 1.6 meters! I have just tried them, and can report that the close focus is right around 5.25 feet, MUCH less than what any website source indicated, including that of the manufacturer!
On the downside, the rather small diameter focusing wheel seems very stiff. Hopefully, this will loosen usefully with usage. Also, the 3/32" neckcord I find just barely adequate, creating a "toe out" carry position, so the thin cord may be useful mainly for safety purposes, but not for any extended carrying around the neck.
The thin strap attached to the tubes on my older Minolta 8 x 24's seems much more comfortable, though I suspect the Minox are optically better. By the way, one can make the Minox ride "toe in," by putting them over one's neck "backwards," then bringing them up to the eyes in a "crossdraw" fashion.
The supplied padded nylon belt case is excellent, and includes an outside slit pocket (into which I have put my business card), though I suspect it was meant as a secure storage area for the eyepiece caps.
These will not be my primary birding binoculars, but for their intended purpose, every day briefcase carrying, I think they should work well. Locally much of the casual birding would be of birds that gather, usually of course on the FAR side, of various ponding basins used locally for groundwater recharge, and flood control. That makes 10X more useful than 8X. For walking around my neighborhood, on the other hand, I think I'd prefer my 8 x 32's, due to the better strap, wider field, and likely much more close range peering upwards.
Alan Birnbaum
Fresno, CA