In Afghanistan, Just another foreign policy failure by Biden, his regular, to be expected

Started by richartisticwoods, 08/16/2021 09:17PM
Posted 08/16/2021 09:17PM Opening Post
And why would we expect anything different, since as former Defense Sec'y Robert Gates said many years ago in his memoir "Joe Biden has been wrong on every Major Foreign Policy and National Security issue for the last 4 decades".

Just a few weeks back Joe Biden was out there in all his confusion saying that it was Highly Unlikely that the Taliban Will Overrun Afghanistan.

The man is a completely unaware, senile dummy, who can barely tie his own shoes in the morning.  

Now Joe Biden is nowhere to be found.  He is off AWOL from his post.  Not a peep out of the man.  Pathetic...

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Posted 08/16/2021 10:49PM #1
Biden is going to deliver an address to the nation this afternoon. But maybe he should have done what Trump wanted to do and invited the Taliban to Camp David instead...
Posted 08/16/2021 11:22PM | Edited 08/16/2021 11:24PM #2
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
Biden is going to deliver an address to the nation this afternoon. But maybe he should have done what Trump wanted to do and invited the Taliban to Camp David instead...

PVLW,

Did Trump orchestrate this withdrawal?  Is Trump the CIC?  Answer to both:  No.   This is all on the Biden Administration, period.

4 Star General Keane on this disaster: 

"Warfare in Afghanistan is seasonal. They start in the spring and it ends in the fall. And the Taliban pack up their bags and go to Pakistan during the winter. So why are we doing a withdrawal right in the middle of the fighting season, in the heart of it"?


General Keane was on the Mark Levin radio show earlier this week, and he described this ill-thought out removal of troops as an Epic Disaster.  

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2021/08/13/gen-jack-keane-blasts-bidens-embarrassing-retreat-from-afghanistan-offers-an-alternative-n425856
Posted 08/16/2021 11:56PM #3
"Former President Donald Trump on Sunday expressed support for pulling U.S. military forces out of Afghanistan, calling a withdrawal "wonderful and positive," but pushed back on President Biden's September 11 deadline for leaving the country.
Mr. Trump said in a statement he believes the U.S. should leave Afghanistan earlier than when Mr. Biden has called for, and took credit for laying the groundwork for American troops to leave the country before September 11, the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks that launched the U.S. into its longest war.
"I made early withdraw possible by already pulling much of our billions of dollars and equipment out and, more importantly, reducing our military presence to less than 2,000 troops from the 16,000 level that was there," he said."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-afghanistan-war-withdrawal/
Posted 08/17/2021 12:13AM | Edited 08/17/2021 12:13AM #4
So what Rod? Biden and his administration OWN what is happening right now over there. That innocent blood is on their hands and no one elses. We were there when Trump took office and we were there when he left office. Just because Trump paid lip service to pulling out does NOT put the blame for doing so at his feet. Biden and his admin deserve the credit for this slaughter regardless of how you paint it.

I have little doubt now that the MSM has shamed Biden out of his hidey hole to speak publicly on the issue this afternoon he and his minions will try to paint Trump with the blame but the fact remains they are the ones who pulled out and the thousands who are dying for that decision lay right at Biden's feet.

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Posted 08/17/2021 12:23AM #5
Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
So what Rod? Biden and his administration OWN what is happening right now over there. That innocent blood is on their hands and no one elses. We were there when Trump took office and we were there when he left office. Just because Trump paid lip service to pulling out does NOT put the blame for doing so at his feet. Biden and his admin deserve the credit for this slaughter regardless of how you paint it.

I have little doubt now that the MSM has shamed Biden out of his hidey hole to speak publicly on the issue this afternoon he and his minions will try to paint Trump with the blame but the fact remains they are the ones who pulled out and the thousands who are dying for that decision lay right at Biden's feet.
Trump... "took credit for laying the groundwork for American troops to leave the country before September 11"
And to that you say, "So what"!!!
Posted 08/17/2021 12:26AM #6
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Trump... "took credit for laying the groundwork for American troops to leave the country before September 11"
And to that you say, "So what"!!!

Yep....so what. He DIDNT do it. He paid lip service to it, talk is cheap, actions get the credit and Biden and his minions OWN this.

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Posted 08/17/2021 12:33AM | Edited 08/17/2021 12:34AM #7
Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


Yep....so what. He DIDNT do it. He paid lip service to it, talk is cheap, actions get the credit and Biden and his minions OWN this.
Which Trump began in earnest with his troop pullout, down from 16000 to 2000 on his watch and would have continued to do so if he had been re-elected. That troop drawdown was a considerable drawdown and not lip service...
Posted 08/17/2021 12:43AM #8
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Which Trump began in earnest with his troop pullout, down from 16000 to 2000 on his watch and would have continued to do so if he had been re-elected. That troop drawdown was a considerable drawdown and not lip service...

Once again....so what? Bottom line is we left on Biden's watch, the decision to do so belongs to Biden. The thousands of innocent deaths belong to Biden. Or are you claiming that Biden had no choice in the matter? That he couldnt reverse the former President's plan? LOL

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Posted 08/17/2021 01:10AM #9
Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


Once again....so what? Bottom line is we left on Biden's watch, the decision to do so belongs to Biden. The thousands of innocent deaths belong to Biden. Or are you claiming that Biden had no choice in the matter? That he couldnt reverse the former President's plan? LOL
I haven't read that "thousands of innocent deaths" have occurred as the result of the pullout.. Please cite your source. 
I believe it's delusional to think that either Trump or Biden would have done a "surge" in Afghanistan so a pullout would have occurred with either one...