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Supreme Court upholds birthright citizenship

Started by jameslbrown, 06/30/2026 03:41PM
Posted 06/30/2026 03:41PM | Edited 06/30/2026 04:45PM Opening Post
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25-365_4hdj.pdf

I agree with the majority in this matter. Another in a fairly substantial subset of opinions curbing Trump‘s executive overreach.  Jim
Posted 06/30/2026 06:28PM #1
Originally Posted by James Brown
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25-365_4hdj.pdf

I agree with the majority in this matter. Another in a fairly substantial subset of opinions curbing Trump‘s executive overreach.  Jim
Well, not according to Alito and Clarence:

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5947513-birthright-citizenship-clarence-thomas-dissent/

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5947944-alito-dissent-birthright-citizenship-supreme-court-ruling/

That's some pretty wacked thinking, don't ya think?...

Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Maher on this:   "Democrats could lose midterms because of ‘really crazy’ New York candidates"

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/5947912-bill-maher-democratic-socialists-new-york/
Posted 06/30/2026 09:04PM #2
I'll add more to the mix: In one of of the most disastrous decisions coming from a conservative court ever, that being the Citizens United decision that allowed unlimited dark money to flow freely in the political process as a so called expression of "freedom of speech", the cons of the court just compounded the blunder by extending the practice to allow unlimited spending from political parties:   https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/party-spending-federal-elections-supreme-court/3910993/

I'm sure that's what the framers of the constitution had in mind when they were thinking "Freedom of Speech", don't ya think?...
Posted 07/01/2026 02:05AM | Edited 07/01/2026 02:07AM #3
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Maher on this:   "Democrats could lose midterms because of ‘really crazy’ New York candidates"

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/5947912-bill-maher-democratic-socialists-new-york/
The key issue for these crazies is US support for Israel. Maybe I should be more blunt… The key issue for these crazies is Israel’s right to exist at all.

I’ve known you online for what, about 20 years? The situation in the United States, where the Republicans are vocally supporting Israel and the Democrats are turning their back must be driving you nuts.   

I’ll be curious to see how the Colorado primaries turn out tonight.  (I love our system, where the votes can be tabulated on election day (today) but that is a rant for another time!) There are a couple of races on the Democratic side where Democratic Socialists are opposing conventional establishment liberals. I doubt that the “crazy” has legs beyond New York City, or maybe Seattle/Portland, but who knows?
Posted 07/01/2026 02:13AM | Edited 07/01/2026 02:20AM #4
Originally Posted by James Brown

The key issue for these crazies is US support for Israel. Maybe I should be more blunt… The key issue for these crazies is Israel’s right to exist at all.

I’ve known you online for what, about 20 years? The situation in the United States, where the Republicans are vocally supporting Israel and the Democrats are turning their back must be driving you nuts.   

I’ll be curious to see how the Colorado primaries turn out tonight.  (I love our system, where the votes can be tabulated on election day (today) but that is a rant for another time!) There are a couple of races on the Democratic side where Democratic Socialists are opposing conventional establishment liberals. I doubt that the “crazy” has legs beyond New York City, or maybe Seattle/Portland, but who knows?
Once again I’m probably going to be proven wrong. With 65% of the vote in, the socialist  Melat Kiros is ahead of the ancient liberal incumbent Diana DeGette. There is not a republican on earth who could beat Diana DeGette, she has been a fixture as the congresswoman from Denver for decades.   she is as liberal as they come. But she is not a socialist. Unbelievable.

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Posted 07/01/2026 02:13AM #5
Originally Posted by James Brown

The key issue for these crazies is US support for Israel. Maybe I should be more blunt… The key issue for these crazies is Israel’s right to exist at all.

I’ve known you online for what, about 20 years? The situation in the United States, where the Republicans are vocally supporting Israel and the Democrats are turning their back must be driving you nuts.   

I’ll be curious to see how the Colorado primaries turn out tonight.  (I love our system, where the votes can be tabulated on election day (today) but that is a rant for another time!) There are a couple of races on the Democratic side where Democratic Socialists are opposing conventional establishment liberals. I doubt that the “crazy” has legs beyond New York City, or maybe Seattle/Portland, but who knows?
Yeah you're right about it and I hope the socialist seeds don't find their way to Colorado tonight...
Posted 07/01/2026 02:52AM | Edited 07/01/2026 02:52AM #6
Originally Posted by James Brown

Once again I’m probably going to be proven wrong. With 65% of the vote in, the socialist  Melat Kiros is ahead of the ancient liberal incumbent Diana DeGette. There is not a republican on earth who could beat Diana DeGette, she has been a fixture as the congresswoman from Denver for decades.   she is as liberal as they come. But she is not a socialist. Unbelievable.
It’s getting worse.

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Posted 07/01/2026 03:12AM #7
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Yeah you're right about it and I hope the socialist seeds don't find their way to Colorado tonight...
Melat Kiros is obviously bright and highly educated.   But her main claim to fame is this too-long open letter condemning Israel.   She sugar coats her points with “anti-Semitism is bad” platitudes, but if you have the time to digest this whole thing the bottom line is full-throated justification of Palestinian violence and condemnation of any Israeli response.   She’s probably going to be the next congresswoman representing Denver.  ☹️

https://medium.com/@melatakiros/dear-us-law-firms-77ec63e838af
Posted 07/01/2026 04:00AM #8
Originally Posted by James Brown

Melat Kiros is obviously bright and highly educated.   But her main claim to fame is this too-long open letter condemning Israel.   She sugar coats her points with “anti-Semitism is bad” platitudes, but if you have the time to digest this whole thing the bottom line is full-throated justification of Palestinian violence and condemnation of any Israeli response.   She’s probably going to be the next congresswoman representing Denver.  ☹️

https://medium.com/@melatakiros/dear-us-law-firms-77ec63e838af
I know, I read up about her. 
My take on the whole thing:

1. IRAN WAR: I agree with Maher that Trump's timing was awful in that he waited until 100,000 or so Iranians died while being murdered by the Iranian regime instead of upholding his promise of "help is on the way." Had he coordinated the combined American-Israeli  attacks with the uprising, the outcome may have very well been different.

America won't tolerate casualties like it did in the second world war and the greatest generation is long gone and it's not coming back. Israel has taken 1000 casualties taking out most of Hamas and a major chunk out of Hezbollah but America wouldn't deal with sustaining 100 casualties taking Kharg Island. 
Hamas , Hezbollah and Iran are winning the propaganda war with its genocide bullshit which the progressives believe to be real and that's a major reason of why we are where we are with these candidates.

2. If these progressive candidates prevail, the GOP will beat the Democratic party over the head with them come November and, as I've already stated, I agree again with Maher that it'll cost the Democrats the midterm elections...
Posted 07/01/2026 04:08AM #9
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

I know, I read up about her. 
My take on the whole thing:

1. IRAN WAR: I agree with Maher that Trump's timing was awful in that he waited until 100,000 or so Iranians died while being murdered by the Iranian regime instead of upholding his promise of "help is on the way." Had he coordinated the combined American-Israeli  attacks with the uprising, the outcome may have very well been different.

America won't tolerate casualties like it did in the second world war and the greatest generation is long gone and it's not coming back. Israel has taken 1000 casualties taking out most of Hamas and a major chunk out of Hezbollah but America wouldn't deal with sustaining 100 casualties taking Kharg Island. 
Hamas , Hezbollah and Iran are winning the propaganda war with its genocide bullshit which the progressives believe to be real and that's a major reason of why we are where we are with these candidates.

2. If these progressive candidates prevail, the GOP will beat the Democratic party over the head with them come November and, as I've already stated, I agree again with Maher that it'll cost the Democrats the midterm elections...
Done deal in Denver.

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