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The GOP Plan For Health Insurance

Started by Rod Kaufman, 12/03/2025 11:52PM
Posted 12/03/2025 11:52PM Opening Post
There isn't any:    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5632583-republicans-divided-aca-subsidies/

There are, however, "concepts of a plan" so let us consider what those gems entail:   

1. Fund your own "health savings account"--hmm, that one's been around for awhile,  how's that one working for you?

2. Combine with others for collective bargaining with insurance companies to lower their rates--any of you good at negotiations? 

3. Alternately sign up for routine exams, if offered, at your local Costco or Walmart!

4. Decry the affordable care act for the whole problem and blame it all on Biden!

Looks like they're gonna go for option 4...

Meanwhile the red states are gonna take it on the chin with the loss of the ACA subsidies while the blue states, in comparison, are not! (Guess they better line up at Walmart!)

"Red states would likely lose the most under expiring ACA subsidies, due to a larger share of enrollees living in Republican-held congressional districts and states that have not expanded Medicaid. Analysts suggest that ending the enhanced subsidies would disproportionately harm red states, particularly in the South, because a significant number of their residents rely on these plans and would face the largest premium increases, as well as potential job losses in sectors that depend on ACA plans."

"Of the 10 states with the highest share of the population receiving Obamacare subsidies, eight are in the South and voted for President Donald Trump last year. They include Florida, Georgia, Texas, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee and North Carolina. The other two states in the top 10, Utah and Wyoming, are also Republican states."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gop-states-suffer-biggest-blows-225523374.html
Posted 12/05/2025 04:34PM #1
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
There isn't any:    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5632583-republicans-divided-aca-subsidies/

There are, however, "concepts of a plan" so let us consider what those gems entail:   

1. Fund your own "health savings account"--hmm, that one's been around for awhile,  how's that one working for you?

2. Combine with others for collective bargaining with insurance companies to lower their rates--any of you good at negotiations? 

3. Alternately sign up for routine exams, if offered, at your local Costco or Walmart!

4. Decry the affordable care act for the whole problem and blame it all on Biden!

Looks like they're gonna go for option 4...

Meanwhile the red states are gonna take it on the chin with the loss of the ACA subsidies while the blue states, in comparison, are not! (Guess they better line up at Walmart!)

"Red states would likely lose the most under expiring ACA subsidies, due to a larger share of enrollees living in Republican-held congressional districts and states that have not expanded Medicaid. Analysts suggest that ending the enhanced subsidies would disproportionately harm red states, particularly in the South, because a significant number of their residents rely on these plans and would face the largest premium increases, as well as potential job losses in sectors that depend on ACA plans."

"Of the 10 states with the highest share of the population receiving Obamacare subsidies, eight are in the South and voted for President Donald Trump last year. They include Florida, Georgia, Texas, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee and North Carolina. The other two states in the top 10, Utah and Wyoming, are also Republican states."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gop-states-suffer-biggest-blows-225523374.html

The vote to extend ACA subsidies for three years, which Schumer says will take place in the Senate before the year's end, will fail. It's a political stunt to pin more blame for the problem on Republicans. We all know there is no way the GOP will agree to a three-year extension. So, our politicians will continue to dither and attack each other politically, and absolutely nothing will get done about the problem. The cynic in me believes that Democrats will gladly let the current situation continue to ensure that it's a significant issue come the midterm elections.
Posted 12/05/2025 06:24PM | Edited 12/05/2025 06:25PM #2
Originally Posted by James Lacey


The vote to extend ACA subsidies for three years, which Schumer says will take place in the Senate before the year's end, will fail. It's a political stunt to pin more blame for the problem on Republicans. We all know there is no way the GOP will agree to a three-year extension. So, our politicians will continue to dither and attack each other politically, and absolutely nothing will get done about the problem. The cynic in me believes that Democrats will gladly let the current situation continue to ensure that it's a significant issue come the midterm elections.
While it's true that a three year extension would likely fail in a vote, a more likely compromise of a lesser term extension could conceivably pass. That said, here's what the so-called "centrist" Republican congressmen are saying and it lays responsibility for the impasse on their fellow republicans:

"Frustration is mounting among moderate House Republicans as various competing health care plans appear to be going nowhere, with less than 10 working days left on the calendar before millions of Americans see their health insurance premiums spike."  

"A small but animated group of GOP centrists is imploring party leaders to extend the ObamaCare tax credits set to expire at the end of the year. But they’ve run into a wall of opposition from Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), who’s cold to the idea, and a larger group of conference conservatives, who are openly fighting to have the subsidies end."

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5634256-gop-health-care-plans-frustration/

The fact is James, the GOP has tried repeatedly to end the ACA, and they'll burn the house down to do it. So, as far as assigning responsibility for it, blame the GOP...
Posted 12/05/2025 09:46PM #3
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

While it's true that a three year extension would likely fail in a vote, a more likely compromise of a lesser term extension could conceivably pass. That said, here's what the so-called "centrist" Republican congressmen are saying and it lays responsibility for the impasse on their fellow republicans:

"Frustration is mounting among moderate House Republicans as various competing health care plans appear to be going nowhere, with less than 10 working days left on the calendar before millions of Americans see their health insurance premiums spike."  

"A small but animated group of GOP centrists is imploring party leaders to extend the ObamaCare tax credits set to expire at the end of the year. But they’ve run into a wall of opposition from Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), who’s cold to the idea, and a larger group of conference conservatives, who are openly fighting to have the subsidies end."

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5634256-gop-health-care-plans-frustration/

The fact is James, the GOP has tried repeatedly to end the ACA, and they'll burn the house down to do it. So, as far as assigning responsibility for it, blame the GOP...

Yes, no doubt the skyrocketing premiums are all the fault of the GOP. The Senate vote is designed to fail, though, and as I said, the cynic in me wonders if, even if a compromise were possible, the Democrats would rather have the political whipping post for the midterms.