When will the right side of the political aisle Start burning down buildings and killing leftists in the streets the way that the Democrat party members did after the George Floyd death?

Started by richartisticwoods, 09/13/2025 04:33PM
Posted 09/13/2025 04:33PM Opening Post
Will the followers of Charlie Kirk do what the violent radical left did after George Floyd died, and burn down buildings and cause mayhem, destruction, arson, beatings, looting, and murder?

Will the conservative right do just what the conservative left did?  Will the right cause the country to go into complete chaos because Charlie Kirk was murdered?

Will the conservative right set up areas of cities as was done in the summer of love, as was done in Seattle where parts of that city were occupied by far left radicals, permitting them to effectively shut down the city, because they were angry?

Will the conservative right egg on people to get out in the street the way the left did?  Will JD Vance do as Kamala Harris did and tell the world that angry mobs needed to get out there and do their chaotic dance, and then say to the world, "they should not stop" as Democrat VP Kamala Harris did?

I wonder if that will happen here after the political assassination of Charlie Kirk.

I seriously doubt it.  The political right doesn't have mobs of crazies that are egged on by their political leaders like the left does.  smile
Posted 09/13/2025 06:13PM #1
Originally Posted by Richard Davis
Will the followers of Charlie Kirk do what the violent radical left did after George Floyd died, and burn down buildings and cause mayhem, destruction, arson, beatings, looting, and murder?

Will the conservative right do just what the conservative left did?  Will the right cause the country to go into complete chaos because Charlie Kirk was murdered?

Will the conservative right set up areas of cities as was done in the summer of love, as was done in Seattle where parts of that city were occupied by far left radicals, permitting them to effectively shut down the city, because they were angry?

Will the conservative right egg on people to get out in the street the way the left did?  Will JD Vance do as Kamala Harris did and tell the world that angry mobs needed to get out there and do their chaotic dance, and then say to the world, "they should not stop" as Democrat VP Kamala Harris did?

I wonder if that will happen here after the political assassination of Charlie Kirk.

I seriously doubt it.  The political right doesn't have mobs of crazies that are egged on by their political leaders like the left does.  smile

What is there for the right to protest? That the de facto leader of the MAGA-GOP, the POTUS himself, was completely wrong about who the shooter would be? That you were wrong about who the shooter would be? Should they protest that a young white male, from a conservative MAGA family, in a conservative red state, who was raised in gun culture, and steeped in online internet memes and gaming culture, is the shooter? Where exactly is the injustice that is even comparable to what was done to George Floyd, and the history of racism in the US? Yes, Kirk was shot and killed, but not by some "psychotic leftist democrat." As far as we know, the shooter acted alone, and there is no broader conspiracy or systemic issue to protest. Holy Cow! You are the absolute king of what-about-ery, distractions, moving the goal posts, and strawmen. Anything to avoid admitting you were wrong; what an intellectual coward you once again prove yourself to be. How about this? How about the right quits claiming they are being persecuted, and quits trying to turn Kirk into some martyr, and instead admits the facts as we know them today simply don't fit their narrative.
Posted 09/13/2025 08:14PM #2
Originally Posted by James Lacey


What is there for the right to protest? That the de facto leader of the MAGA-GOP, the POTUS himself, was completely wrong about who the shooter would be? That you were wrong about who the shooter would be? Should they protest that a young white male, from a conservative MAGA family, in a conservative red state, who was raised in gun culture, and steeped in online internet memes and gaming culture, is the shooter? Where exactly is the injustice that is even comparable to what was done to George Floyd, and the history of racism in the US? Yes, Kirk was shot and killed, but not by some "psychotic leftist democrat." As far as we know, the shooter acted alone, and there is no broader conspiracy or systemic issue to protest. Holy Cow! You are the absolute king of what-about-ery, distractions, moving the goal posts, and strawmen. Anything to avoid admitting you were wrong; what an intellectual coward you once again prove yourself to be. How about this? How about the right quits claiming they are being persecuted, and quits trying to turn Kirk into some martyr, and instead admits the facts as we know them today simply don't fit their narrative.
Well stated and consistent with the following video and well worth the view:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw7Q0aczA2Q
Posted 09/13/2025 09:16PM #3
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Well stated and consistent with the following video and well worth the view:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw7Q0aczA2Q

Not to mention, we already know what Democrats would do if a similar event happened, since it just happened in June of this year when Melissa Hortman, a State senator of Michigan, and her husband were shot and killed by a right-wing Trump supporter. Not to mention the other State senator and his wife, who were wounded in the same crime spree. When this happened, Democrats called for gun reform, and of course, right-wingers made fun of the murders. Trump himself said acknowledging the act or calling anyone to offer condolences would be a waste of time, and he skipped the funeral. And no one on the left called for the Republican Party to be labelled a terrorist organization, or that they should use the full force of the Federal Government to punish institutions and individuals falsely accused of being complicit or enablers. We don't have to imagine what the Democrats would do if a similar event happened because it just happened, and Rich is so cocooned in his echo chamber that he doesn't even know about it. Meanwhile, Trump and Republicans are acting like Charlie Kirk is some national hero, and ordering flags to be flown at half mast, awarding him the medal of freedom posthumously, and flying Kirk's body on Air Force 2 to AZ. It's actually kind of nauseating to see how much the right is politicizing Kirk's death for their political gain.
Posted 09/13/2025 10:13PM #4
Originally Posted by James Lacey


Not to mention, we already know what Democrats would do if a similar event happened, since it just happened in June of this year when Melissa Hortman, a State senator of Michigan, and her husband were shot and killed by a right-wing Trump supporter. Not to mention the other State senator and his wife, who were wounded in the same crime spree. When this happened, Democrats called for gun reform, and of course, right-wingers made fun of the murders. Trump himself said acknowledging the act or calling anyone to offer condolences would be a waste of time, and he skipped the funeral. And no one on the left called for the Republican Party to be labelled a terrorist organization, or that they should use the full force of the Federal Government to punish institutions and individuals falsely accused of being complicit or enablers. We don't have to imagine what the Democrats would do if a similar event happened because it just happened, and Rich is so cocooned in his echo chamber that he doesn't even know about it. Meanwhile, Trump and Republicans are acting like Charlie Kirk is some national hero, and ordering flags to be flown at half mast, awarding him the medal of freedom posthumously, and flying Kirk's body on Air Force 2 to AZ. It's actually kind of nauseating to see how much the right is politicizing Kirk's death for their political gain.
Although I respect Utah governor Cox for urging relative calm in the aftermath, we now get this from him:

“It’s very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” Cox told The Wall Street Journal in an article published Saturday morning."

"Cox said at a Friday morning press conference that a family member of Robinson told investigators that the suspect “had become more political in recent years.”

“They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” Cox said Friday morning. “The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.”

"Robinson is registered as an unaffiliated voter in Utah."

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5502176-kirk-murder-suspect-leftist-cox-report/

How does that equate to being "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology"?
Posted 09/13/2025 11:06PM #5
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Although I respect Utah governor Cox for urging relative calm in the aftermath, we now get this from him:

“It’s very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” Cox told The Wall Street Journal in an article published Saturday morning."

"Cox said at a Friday morning press conference that a family member of Robinson told investigators that the suspect “had become more political in recent years.”

“They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” Cox said Friday morning. “The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.”

"Robinson is registered as an unaffiliated voter in Utah."

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5502176-kirk-murder-suspect-leftist-cox-report/

How does that equate to being "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology"?

Cox is jumping to conclusions. It could be that we will find out in the coming weeks and months that Tyler made a left-wing veer in his politics. However, that does not equate to a "psychotic leftist democrat." I speculate that Tyler will turn out to be yet another young, unstable, and misguided white male who shouldn't have had access to guns, and that whatever his background and motivation, it's not going to fit neatly into left or right-wing extremism.
Posted 09/14/2025 01:58AM #6
Originally Posted by James Lacey


What is there for the right to protest? That the de facto leader of the MAGA-GOP, the POTUS himself, was completely wrong about who the shooter would be? That you were wrong about who the shooter would be? Should they protest that a young white male, from a conservative MAGA family, in a conservative red state, who was raised in gun culture, and steeped in online internet memes and gaming culture, is the shooter?


Where exactly is the injustice that is even comparable to what was done to George Floyd,

and the history of racism in the US? Yes, Kirk was shot and killed, but not by some "psychotic leftist democrat." As far as we know, the shooter acted alone, and there is no broader conspiracy or systemic issue to protest. Holy Cow! You are the absolute king of what-about-ery, distractions, moving the goal posts, and strawmen. Anything to avoid admitting you were wrong; what an intellectual coward you once again prove yourself to be. How about this? How about the right quits claiming they are being persecuted, and quits trying to turn Kirk into some martyr, and instead admits the facts as we know them today simply don't fit their narrative.


Do you mean the George Floyd who died of a Drug overdose, specifically Fentanyl, that same George Floyd who killed himself by ingesting it that day, and was shown on video for about 10 minutes in the back of a cop car saying "I can't breathe, I can't breathe", before Derek Chauvin used a police move that was in the manuals and for which he was trained to do to subdue a suspect by placing his knee on the side of his neck?

You can go to the film "The Fall of Minneapolis" here:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA

At the 14:10 minute mark George Floyd states "I can't choke, I can't breathe"

That was of course before he was even on the ground.  

Is that the same George Floyd of which you are speaking, the career criminal who had served Prison time and  who was arrested many times, one of which was when he and other criminals went into the apartment of a pregnant woman to rob her at gunpoint, with George Floyd being the one who placed the muzzle of a handgun against her abdomen threatening to kill her and her unborn baby if she did not give them her money?

Is that the George Floyd of whom you are speaking?

Is this the same George Floyd that died after he self-ingested Fentanyl and overdosed on it whereby the coroner who performed his autopsy found that he had more than 3X the amount of Fentanyl in his system that normally kills human beings?

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA 

Do you mean the George Floyd who when pulled over was found with Methamphetamine in his car and with Fentanyl in his car?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA

You can go to the 18:59 mark
of the above video and see the image of him ingesting those drugs in his mouth.

Do you mean the same George Floyd, who when asked by the arresting officers if he was "On something", told the police "No, nothing", when he was experiencing a Fentanyl overdose.  You can go to the 9:25 mark in the Film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA

Let's get to the actual autopsy of George Floyd, done on May 26, 2020, 12 hours after George Floyd died.

This you can see in this film at the 37:37 mark.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA  

Now if one doesn't want to watch the entire segment, one can go to the 38:23 mark where it states that Mr. Floyd's condition was such that he had a heavy heart and serious coronary artery disease, with one of his heart arteries at 75% blockage.  

More importantly the Dr. who performed the autopsy stated that Mr. Floyd did not die of asphyxiation.  
 
I could go on but why?  He was a career criminal whose life was simply a life of crime.  

And now, because he was black, the leftist world now reveres this poor guy who was a career criminal as a person to celebrate as a Saint.  

Pretty sad life he had but then he chose that life didn't he?
Posted 09/14/2025 02:29PM #7
Originally Posted by Richard Davis



Do you mean the George Floyd who died of a Drug overdose, specifically Fentanyl, that same George Floyd who killed himself by ingesting it that day, and was shown on video for about 10 minutes in the back of a cop car saying "I can't breathe, I can't breathe", before Derek Chauvin used a police move that was in the manuals and for which he was trained to do to subdue a suspect by placing his knee on the side of his neck?

You can go to the film "The Fall of Minneapolis" here:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA

At the 14:10 minute mark George Floyd states "I can't choke, I can't breathe"

That was of course before he was even on the ground.  

Is that the same George Floyd of which you are speaking, the career criminal who had served Prison time and  who was arrested many times, one of which was when he and other criminals went into the apartment of a pregnant woman to rob her at gunpoint, with George Floyd being the one who placed the muzzle of a handgun against her abdomen threatening to kill her and her unborn baby if she did not give them her money?

Is that the George Floyd of whom you are speaking?

Is this the same George Floyd that died after he self-ingested Fentanyl and overdosed on it whereby the coroner who performed his autopsy found that he had more than 3X the amount of Fentanyl in his system that normally kills human beings?

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA 

Do you mean the George Floyd who when pulled over was found with Methamphetamine in his car and with Fentanyl in his car?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA

You can go to the 18:59 mark
of the above video and see the image of him ingesting those drugs in his mouth.

Do you mean the same George Floyd, who when asked by the arresting officers if he was "On something", told the police "No, nothing", when he was experiencing a Fentanyl overdose.  You can go to the 9:25 mark in the Film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA

Let's get to the actual autopsy of George Floyd, done on May 26, 2020, 12 hours after George Floyd died.

This you can see in this film at the 37:37 mark.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA  

Now if one doesn't want to watch the entire segment, one can go to the 38:23 mark where it states that Mr. Floyd's condition was such that he had a heavy heart and serious coronary artery disease, with one of his heart arteries at 75% blockage.  

More importantly the Dr. who performed the autopsy stated that Mr. Floyd did not die of asphyxiation.  
 
I could go on but why?  He was a career criminal whose life was simply a life of crime.  

And now, because he was black, the leftist world now reveres this poor guy who was a career criminal as a person to celebrate as a Saint.  

Pretty sad life he had but then he chose that life didn't he?

You have missed the reason why the murder of George Floyd was consequential by such a wide margin; it's unbelievable. It doesn't matter that George Floyd had struggles in his life. And by the way, his personal background includes a lot more than his struggles with addiction. What matters is that his death exposed systemic racism, with video evidence that was undeniable to a global audience. Floyd's death cemented in reality the long-standing complaints from Black communities regarding policing practices.  Officer Derek Chauvin was convicted of murder, and the other officers were all convicted of state and federal charges and served jail time. In contrast, Charlie Kirk, a right-wing demagogue who made millions off of monetizing right-wing rhetoric and propaganda, was shot by a 22-year-old, white male, from a highly conservative family and background, who lives in a highly red state, and who was steeped in online internet meme and gaming culture, and gun culture. If there were two events that are not the same, these would be them.