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Achromat technique: RGB photography...

Started by Ghambit, 12/19/2004 09:30AM
Posted 12/19/2004 09:30AM Opening Post
I'm about to embark on an interesting idea I had for my C6-RGT. As of now, it actually doesnt have too much chromatic aberration, albeit it is still noticible. A good collimation definitely helps.
At any rate, per the definition of chromatic aberration basically the lens doesnt focus light near the blue wavelength (and some red) to the same point as other wavelengths, which is why u see blue edges.
NOW, this being the case... using RGB filters with achromats should not be too much of a big deal. Why?? After switching color filters you'll refocus each time. Even when using a stiletto u can easily get the same framing of your shot simply by using index marks on your camera. If you're worried about rack and pinion focuser image shift, just make a note of whether your focuser is in perfect alignment as you're slewing in or out (assuming you've collimated your focuser and taken note of whether u were slewing in or out at perfect collimation).

Assuming u pinpoint each color with a ronchi screen and take precautions with camera placement and image shift you should be able to get the clearest, brightest, most contrasty images in any scope of that comparable aperture save an APO. As well, using film with RGB cuts way down on reciprocity failure, meaning u can use higher grain films without too much consideration for this. Lastly, with drum scans or even quality home-scanning technology u'll still be ahead of the DSLR game when u go to post processing as good quality home-scanners are still way ahead of DSLR. Amd of your frames are not exactly the same of course u can align it post-processing digitally.

Note: one could conceive using this same technique photographing in the Sulfur, mercury, Ha, etc. wavelengths too.


So, given all the money u'll save using an achromat and a simple 35mm with a ronchi or varimagni it's way worth it. If you dont want to invest in a filter wheel u could always purchase the filters only and simply place them in the image plane. Since u'll have to reset your camera anyways this isnt a big deal.
Posted 12/20/2004 12:49AM #1
Hi,

I highly doubt if a filtered achromat can be as good as an apo.

One example is the recent discussion in the Astro-Physics forum in astromart, "Color curve comparison." You can look at the figure of the first article in that thread. The focus difference between the 0.486 um and 0.405 um lines of the achromat is many many times that of the APO. These two lines are both blue. They will go through the same broadband filter and cannot be focused at the same time. On an achromat, it's not just that blue light has a focus different from green and red. Even blue light itself has a very wide range of focus. (Well, this may be solved if you use nerrow-band filter.)

Wei-Hao


Wei-Hao Wang
http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~whwang
Posted 12/21/2004 06:38AM #2
Per looking at those curves I see no reason why RGB wouldnt benefit an achromat emmensely. I've actually posted this technique a while back and got a positive response. SUPPOSEDLY there are some really great RGB and narrowband achromat photos out there. Narrowband especially of course.
Posted 12/22/2004 12:52AM | Edited 12/22/2004 12:52AM #3
Since each color will focus at a different point, the image scale for each color will also be different. Index marks could certainly facilitate the three different exposures with regard to orientation, but if the image scale of each color is different then its a software game of trying to achieve the same image scale for each exposure and combining them.

I do not know too much about imaging in general, perhaps today's software already has a feature that would take care of this? Matching image scale for the exposures.
Posted 01/05/2005 10:11PM #4
Anyone know what kinds of effects an RBG technique would have with a color one-shot camera?? say an mx5c... A few one-shot colors have monochrome outputs but I'm not sure what exactly is going on inside the camera. Obviously I'll be doing RBG, but would be nice to image in color every once and a while. Is there a "best of both worlds" technique for this?