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Posts Made By: Brien Stratton

May 9, 2003 01:57 AM Forum: Religion

Re: Pot decriminialization in Canada

Posted By Brien Stratton

Darian, this is bad news as Canada will soon be like Amsterdam. They have real drug problems. This step toward accepting Mary Jane is trouble as the same thing happened to Amsterdam. People can go to drug bars there and smoke different drugs. Now people have progressed in their drug appetites, and now their are a lot of addicted heroin addicts in Amsterdam. There are a lot in Vancouver (Canada) also, mostly on the main drag there (Hastings Avenue).

Brien

May 9, 2003 02:40 AM Forum: Religion

Re: Pot decriminialization in Canada

Posted By Brien Stratton

I am with you James. The people who are out to try and legalise Mary Jane are only a fringe segment of the population. They are the stores on the second floor of stores on the main drag, They are the head shops. They sell drug paraphanelia. They don't care about the scientific results of Mary Janes's affects. Mary Jane can cause memory problems (brain filing systems). It also can cause lung cancer if smoked , because drug users usually don't concern themselves themselves with filters , ect. Then there is Mary Jane tea, which is another game (I have heard), where marijuana is steeped in hot water. Goodbye brain filing system. Flashback city. Alcohol in moderation is better IMHO for relaxion of tension, ect. Some parts of society side with these drug advocates since they believe in civil liberties, but don't think about the long term consequences.

Brien

May 16, 2003 02:22 PM Forum: Religion

Mammoths- Part 2

Posted By Brien Stratton

cont...

The sands and clays are usualy light colored, but sometimes they are browned or blackened by the various forms of vegetation which have been buried in them. On account of the continual cold in Siberia the year around, its strata remain perpetually frozen to an enormous depth, only a few feet of soil on the top thawing out for a few weeks in summer. While the sandy and clayey strata, when dug into, seems dry, they are in fact very moist, the moisture not being apparent because the ground is so hardily frozen. And through the strata of this vast territory, from Bering Strait to European Russia, the remains of many kinds of quadrupeds are so abundantly buried as to astonish everyone who becomes aquainted with the facts."

From the book- The Flood, by Alfred Rehwinkel, a few excerpts:

"Starting with the islands in the Arctic Ocean along the coast of Siberia, Howarth says that everyone of them contains in its strata abundant animal remains. There is a group of islands off the coast, in the Arctic Ocean, called New Siberia. Concerning one of these, the Island of Lachov, a small island about fifty square miles, Howarth said its soil is "almost composed of fossil bones." The same is true of another of these islands called Kotelni, which is over a hundred miles long and fifty miles wide. Howarth quotes a visitor to this island named Hedenstrom, who said that so plentiful were elephants buried beneath its surface that, as he walked along on the island for half a mile, he counted ten elephant tusks sticking out of the ground. This general condition existed throuout the whole island. Besides the fossils of elephant, skull and bones of rhinoceros, horse, bison, ox, sheep were observed scattered over and imbedded in the earth of the island. Concerning still another island in this group, Howarth quotes Hedenstrom to this effect: "In one island is a lake with a high bank, which splits open in the summer when the sun melts the ice and discloses heaps of tusks,mammoth bones, bones of rhinoceroses, and buffaloes. In other parts of the island bones and tusks are to be seen projecting from the ground."

cont...

Brien

May 16, 2003 02:52 PM Forum: Religion

Mammoths- Part 3

Posted By Brien Stratton

cont...

Hundreds of miles to the eastward of the islands called New Siberia is another group called Bear Islands. Here the same condition of abundant fossil remains exists.

Ferdinand Petrovitch von Wrangel, a Russian explorer, was Howarth's authority for saying: "The soil of Bear Island consists only of sand and ice, with such quantity of mammoth bones that they seem to form the chief substance of the island." Found with the bones of the mammoth were also many bones of the bison. "The sea off the north coast of Siberia ,and about the islands, is very shallow, especially the mudbanks barely protruding above the surface of the sea." Whenever there is a storm, says Howarth, fresh supplies of bones are left exposed on these mudbanks. This fact indicates that the strata forming the bottom of the sea off the coast of Siberia is also full of fossils.

"Turning from the islands to the mainland of Siberia, we found the same situation to exist, no matter where we went. The whole coast line has elephant remains embedded in the strata of the shore. The Arctic coast of Siberia is covered nearly all the year round with ice cliffs caused by the freezing of the ocean spray, but wherever the actual shore is exposed beneath the ice cliffs, bones are seen to be plentifullly embedded in the earth. Thus the fossiliferous conditions continue as one works his way inland from the ocean into the vast level interior of Siberia."

Siberia being generally level, it is, as a rule, only where the rivers have cut their way through the plain, thus exposing the interior of the earth, that what is hidden there has been discovered. But without exception wherever these rivers are, bones of elephants, rhinoceroses, horses, cattle, sheep, and other quadrupeds are found to be entombed in enormous quantities.

"Mammoths are also found in great abundance in the gravels of the Ural Mountains, in the caverns of the Altai, and elsewhere in Asia. South of Siberia, in the zone stretching from Armenia through Turkestan and China to Japan, in Asia Minor, and Syria, elephants' remains have occurred in sporadic localities. Siberia, where the mammoth has been found in greatest abundance, consists of two distinct zones, one a southerly zone, occupied largely by forests and with a more or less broken and mountainous contour; and the other, a northern one, where forest will not grow and where the immense flat wastes are covered with moss and are known as tundras. Beyond these are small islands, in the Polar Sea, in which even more sterile conditions prevail. The remains of the mammoth and its companions occur abundantly in both zones.

cont...

Brien

May 16, 2003 03:14 PM Forum: Religion

Mammoths- Part 4

Posted By Brien Stratton

cont...

It is not possible that these animals could have lived under the conditons now prevailing in these regions. The winters in Siberia last 10 months of the year. Summer does not begin until July, and winter again starts during the early part of August. From November to March the weather is especially severe. In January the cold registers 65 degrees below zero. The larger portion of North Siberia is now a naked tundra on which nothing wil grow, swept by terrible icy winds and covered with moss, sprinled with a few humble flowers. On such feeding ground it is physically impossible, as has been said, that elephants and rhinoceros could have existed."

In summing up his findings on the mammoth in Siberia, Howarth concludes: "Now by no physical process known to us can we understand how soft flesh could thus be buried in ground while it is frozen as hard as flint without disintegrating it. We cannot push an elephant's body into a mass of solid ice or hard frozen gravel and clay without entirely destroying the fine articulations and pounding the whole mass into a jelly, nor would we fail in greatly disturbing the ground in the process. When we, therefore meet with great carcasses of mammoths with their most delicate tissues, their eyes, trunks, and feet beautifully preserved and lying several feet underground in hard frozen, undisturbed gravel and clay, we cannot escape the conclusion that when these carcasses were buried, the ground was soft and yielding. The facts compel us to admit that when the mammoth was buried in Siberia, the ground was soft and the climate therefore comparatively mild and genial, that immediately afterwards, the same ground became frozen, and the same climate became arctic, and that they have remained so to this day, and this was not gradually and in accordance with some slowly continuous, astronomical, or cosmical changes, but suddenly and 'per saltum'.

cont...

Brien

May 16, 2003 03:33 PM Forum: Religion

Mammoths- Part 5

Posted By Brien Stratton

cont...

Again , as I have said, the instances of the soft parts the great pachyderms being preserved are not mere local and sporadic ones, but they form a chain of examples along the whole length of Siberia, from the Urals to the land of the Chukchis, so that we have to do here with a condition of things which prevails and with meteorolical conditions that extend over a continent. When we find such a series ranging so widely preserved in the same perfect way and all evidencing a sudden change of climate from a comparatively temperate one to one of great vigor, we cannot help concluding that they all bear witness to a common event. We cannot postulate a separate climatic cataclysm for each individual case and each individual locality, but we are forced to the conclusion that the now permanently frozen zone in Asia became frozen at the same time from the same causes....I see no possible escape from these conclusions, nor have I heard one suggested, by any one of the very numerous sharply critical people before whom they have been fairly placed, and they are in fact the views maintained by the fathers of geology, whose reputation has been put into the shade by more brilliant, but not more judicious investigators."

It is well-nigh impossible to calculate the number of mammoths buried in the sands and muck of Siberia. We may get some conception from the fact that since the year 900 A.D. men have made a business of collecting the ivory tusks of that region and selling them in China, Arabia, and Europe. In a case where a record could be secured, it was found that in one period of twenty years tusks from at least twenty thousand elephants were taken from one Siberian "mine" to the markets of Europe during the nineteenth century. Considering the vast area over which the remains of elephants are scattered, and the numbers in which they are known to exist in many places, it does not seem improbable that five millions or more of these great animals perished in Siberia in the watery cataclysm which caused their end. How any region could furnish nourishment for so vast a multitude of these monsters, to say nothing of the other aninmals whose bones accompany those of the elephants, is beyond comprehension. But it is equally true that this very fact offers incontrovertible evidence for the grandeur of the world which perished in the flood.

cont...

Brien

May 16, 2003 03:53 PM Forum: Religion

Mammoths - Part 6- End

Posted By Brien Stratton

As we contemplate this most extraordinary phenomenon of the frozen mammoths in the Siberian north, the questions naturally force themselves upon us: How did they get there? What is the explanation for these strangest of all spectacles? Many solutions have been offered; but every unprejudiced reader wil agree with the conclusion arrived at by the English scientist Howarth, who writes:" These facts, I claim, prove several conclusions. They prove in the first place that a very great cataclysm and catastrophe occurred at the close of the mammoth period by which that animal, with its companions was overwhelmed over a very large part of the earth's surface. Secondly, that this catastrophe involved a widespread flood of waters which not only killed the animals, but also buried them under continuous beds of loam or gravel. Thirdly, that the same catastrophe was accompanied by a very great and sudden change of climate in Siberia, by which the animals which had previously lived in fairly temperate conditions were frozen in their flesh under the ground and have remained frozen ever since."

He then continues: "We want a cause that should kill the animals, and yet not break to pieces their bodies, or even mutilate them; a cause which would in some cases disintegrate the skulls without weathering the bones. We want a cause that would not merely do this as a widespead plague or murrain might, but one which would bury the bodies as well as kill the animals, which would take up gravel and clay and lay them down again, and which would sweep together animals of different sizes and species and mix them with trees and other debris of vegetation. What cause competent to do this is known to us? Water would drown the animals and yet would not mutilate their bodies. It would kill them all with comlete impartiality, irrespective of their strength, age or size. It would take up clay and earth, and cover the bodies with it...Not only could it do this, but it is the only cause known to me capable of doing the work on a scale commensurate with the effects we see here in Siberia. "

Brien


May 23, 2003 04:30 PM Forum: Religion

re: pictures

Posted By Brien Stratton

Here is a lousy quality picture of myself from an i.d. card. My pictures are at another location. I just bought this scanner.

Brien

June 17, 2003 03:37 AM Forum: Telescope Making

New Book On Telescope Making

Posted By Brien Stratton

There is a new telescope making book coming out, that includes mirror making, testing, including testing and making a cassegrain-coud'e telescope. It will be available in July from Willmann Bell. Here is the website:

http://www.willbell.com/tm/atmmanual/index.htm

What do you think of it? I think I will get this one. I guess it is coming from Europe, I hope they have ideas for similar telescope making supplies in North America.

Brien

October 5, 2003 12:53 PM Forum: Telescope Making

Re: ATM Journal website?

Posted By Brien Stratton

They are out of business. The most important articles of the issues that were published has quite recently been assembled into a book by Willmann-Bell.

Brien Stratton