Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

No doubt, one of two things will happen....1. They will ignore the PROOF you provided and simply move on without responding or 2. They will continue to argue as if they are right and you are wrong. Either way, Rich 1, the rest 0 lol

Originally Posted by James Lacey

I was talking about the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960s, not the Civil Right Act of 1957. As I said, the Civil Right Act of 1957 was ineffectual and unenforceable, and no one views it as consequential in advance of Civil Rights other than maybe it was a little stepping stone. And it's not a lie to say that without the Democrats, the Civil Rights legislation of the 1960s would never have passed. And the Democrats did vote more than the Republicans in the 1960s legislation (which is what I was always talking about). Making this all about the 1957 Act is some major goalpost moving on your part.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

No denials here....they are however comparatively a very small group of extremists and consistently shrinking as they have been for decades despite all the caterwauling about racists the left wants to keep in the limelight. 

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

The issue is we are talking about a few thousand folks compared to 320 million+. A mole hill that the left and the media would describe as the largest, tallest mountain range in the world to support their agenda which is after all to promote division. 

Originally Posted by James Brown

I agree primarily with Greg.  Rod, the DHS and the political establishment have a political interest in inflating the threat posed by white racist extremists.  That said, I sure don't want to minimize or condone the threat.   Still, it is a few thousand criminals among tens of millions of right-leaning citizens, and I think the threat is inflated by the government and the press.

Biden's assurance that white extremism is the gravest terror threat facing the US is political and will not age well when the next 9-11 happens.

Originally Posted by James Brown

Rod - you did not read my post carefully.  (Or maybe I did not write it carefully?)  I am advancing two separate thoughts that must coexist.

1.  I have always supported the prosecution and jailing of actual criminals, especially the Jan 6 seditionists.   I've posted on this extensively, I agree with you on the prosecutions, and I fully support law enforcement rooting out and prosecuting criminal extremists, and I always have, as I have posted here for years.

So, your characterization of my view as, "so the few thousand extremists or the ongoing mass shootings don't amount to a hill of beans and it's all "politics"... is hogwash.   I was probably not careful enough when I wrote my original post to make my law and order stance clear.   You did read all of the posts I have made supporting the prosecutions, within the bounds of due process?   When you say something like, "Where do you draw the line Jim? How many cases and perps of seditious conspiracy are acceptable? Are they political prisoners, too?"  you are clearly arguing with someone who is not me.

2.  Do you understand the above?  Hopefully yes.   Then my thought two is this:  The democrats and the left-sympathetic portion of the press have over-politicized the actual threat posed by right wing extremism to a nation as robust as ours.  Of course they did, it is hard-ball politics!   

So, those are my two thoughts.   Summarized as this:  (A) "Criminal Justice in a Nation of Laws" >>>> Prosecute the bastards to the extent provided by law.  Root out their cells and toss them in jail, to the extend consistent with due process and other constitutional safeguards.   There is no way you will find me defending criminals who are duly prosecuted.   They are dangerous and the law exists to protect society from these bastards.

(B)  "Politics"  >>>> Those who say we almost lost the nation on Jan 6, or those who say that white supremist terrorism is the greatest threat facing the nation today are playing politics.   You don't have to agree with me, but please don't extrapolate this political point of view into some sort of "How many cases and perps of seditious conspiracy are acceptable?"  The answer is zero are acceptable (duh).   I can say this, knowing that zero is not practical, and also without thinking that anything more than zero means the end of democracy in the United States.