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May 9, 2011 08:03 AM Forum: Religion

The End is Near!

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

Robert Provin said:

About 41 percent of Americans think that Jesus will return before 2050, according to a 2010 poll by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press. And at the moment we have this specific prediction: http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/may21/

The question is, what do you all think of this?

Thank you,
Robert

Hi Robert,
Between May 5th and the 12th 2012. But seriously, that's a long wait for a train that doesn't stop here any more. As others have said here in reply, just be ready. I don't subscribe to the belief that Jesus was divine, nor to a second coming.

If the world ends tomorrow, we still have to get through today.
Steve
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May 11, 2011 08:41 PM Forum: Religion

Is your God different from my God?

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

William Paolini said:

For the three major religions we usually deal with, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, are the characteristics of God as described in the scriptures from each of these religions, different in any way?

So does any passage in texts from the Islamic scriptures/sacred texts, as example, protray God differently in any fundamental way how scriptures/sacred texts portray God in Christianity, or in Judaisms?

These three religions are supposed to be referencing the same God, so do any of them portray God differently in some fundamental way? If not a fundamental way then in some minor way? If you don't have the references to back up your points, or if the points you provide are your understanding based on what you've come to know about the religions that are not yours, would appreciate that you make that fact clear so we don't have any misunderstandings. IMO it is also valuable to voice what we might have as an understanding based on media or discussion, then hopefully someone who practices the said religion can set us straight one way or the other and give us some references.

For me, I don't have any understanding that the God of Judaism and the God of Christianity are any different in character, motive, or action from each other at all. I don't feel as firmly about Islam though, not based on any evidence from their texts, but just the way the popular American media and culture reacts most of the time makes one feel there must be some fundamental differences -- I certainly don't see any differences based on what I observe from my family members who are Muslims as they paint quite a different picture than th media/popular culture does. So not talking the practices of the adherents to the religion, but talking the source texts which define the religion. Are there any differences to be found there?

Hi William,
Of the three major religions of the western world, Christianity departs the most from a monotheistic God. They don't abandon the idea, but have added on so much that "God the Father" now seems to sit in the background.

From what I understand, both from Catholisism, my Jewish friends and recent exchanges here. All three religions hold God (the creator) above all else as singular and infinite without birth or death.

Most controversy lies in variations concerning who he speaks to, getting angry, selecting favorites, doing things that seem so mysterious and so on. Like many people, I believe these aspects have been made up by a people less educated than we are. These factors also introduce a great deal of doubt amongst those who view such attributes as immature or unecessary.

Teaching these bare facts at pre-seminary actually backfires on the Catholics, as many depart their traditional studies at that point and seek God independently. Myself included.

Anything infinite would have to be singular and inclusive of all things or it would be somewhat less than infinite. By our logic and mathematics this is a fact by definition.

I'm rewriting my essay on Universal Divinity and will re-post it in the Philosphy Articles soon. You can read the old one. Even if you don't have a matching set of beliefs to my own, it might be entertaining.

Is my God different from you God? No, we just quibble over the details.

Steve
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May 23, 2011 01:18 PM Forum: Religion

now that we're all still here

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

Joseph Babendreier said:

I joined Astromart last December. Some one gave me the $12 I needed to register as a Christmas present. Since then I have asked many questions that must be typical of newbies--about collimating a Dobsonian and choosing the right eyepieces. Those questions have all been answered with a wonderful outpouring of willingness to share. (Thanks!!!)

And now my main point:

Being a Catholic priest from a very religious Catholic family--I am the oldest of 15 children and I attended high school in a Benedictine Abbey--I have spent most of my life DEEP into the world of religion. I certainly did not join Astromart to discuss religion. And yet, I could not help but notice, with a sense of awe, that the Religion Forum (and it’s attendant sisters-in-law, like the one created for those banned from the Religion Forum) are chock full of posts almost every day.

I have not done a rigorous statistical analysis, but I’m willing to bet a brand new Televue eyepiece on a wager claiming that the Religion Forum has more total posts in the past six months than any other. And if I’m wrong (and I lose that EP, which I don’t have anyway), I can’t be wrong by much.

It must mean something about our ultimate longings. It must mean that we are all looking for some kind of galaxy inside.

Some of us have a cosy little irregular galaxy lurking inside, like one of the Magellanic Clouds. Some of us have a galaxy whose light is entirely blocked by intervening dust clouds. Some of us have a monster elliptical sprawling out chaotically in all directions. Some have a ring galaxy displaying a peculiar beauty that only God himself might explain. Some of us a have tidy bar-shape spiral with two elegant arms glittering with blue giants and white dwarfs. And some of us have a high-red-shift Seyfert that is bursting with gamma rays while slipping further away from sight with every passing day.

I know this might sound like a Sunday Sermon. Well, given my “line of work� I guess I can’t help it. But I wanted to say it all the same. And I would add only this.

It wasn’t so long ago when we were not even sure that galaxies existed. Don’t be surprised that something similar happens in your individual life.

You may have no idea what God has created within you—how beautiful it is and how unlike anything else he has created. An island universe! It is there where you will find the secret of your existence. To use the words Jesus Christ spoke 2000 years ago:

“The coming of the kingdom of God does not admit of observation and there will be no one to say, ‘Look here! Look there!’ For, you must know, the kingdom of God is within you.� (Lk 17:20-21)

Peace,
(Father) Joe


Good Morning Father Joe,
We have had a variety of discussions with some old favorites creeping up nearly weekly. As you've no doubt noticed the site is not free from conflict. However polite counterpoints can be found in some qualtity.

I have no doubt this Forum or perhaps the Politics Forum are the most frequented. You might add to your statistics; there is an inherent need to make one's opinion known. As Religion and Politics brim with opinions, it makes sense.

Not eveyone on this site is Christian. So, we get lots of differing ideas. Mostly all food for thought. If you like philosophy I've got an essay listed under Reviews, Articles, Philosophy. It'll be updated by the end of the week.

If you want to stand in between broadsides being fired, the No Holds Barred forum also has a lot of activity.

Oh, glad the world didn't end, but I do have a good contingency plan.

Steve
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June 2, 2011 07:15 PM Forum: Eyepieces

Oldest ocular, why you've retained it?

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

Darian Rachal said:

A friend of mine recently gave me an Astro-Tech 15mm wide angle ocular. I told him I'd see how it compares with a UO 16mm Konig that I've had for about 30 years.

Then it dawned on me that of all the oculars I've owned over the years, the Konig is one I've never considered selling. I think UO has been selling this ocular for quite a few years. There is just something about it's performance with different scopes I've had that appeals to me.

Anyway, just wondering if there are any of you holding on to old oculars that you just like for some reason, even though you've bought Naglers, Panoptics, Ethos, etc.?

Hi darian,
My favorite is not very old, but is my workhorse. The 27mm TeleVue Panoptic. In the long Maksutovs, it has held it's own head to head with nearly everything else I've tried.
Steve
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June 2, 2011 07:27 PM Forum: Religion

Moralistic Therapeutic Deism....?

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

William Paolini said:

What's everyone's thoughts on this...

"Moralistic Therapeutic Deism," a belief system articulated by researchers Christian Smith and Melinda Denton.
-- A god exists who created and ordered the world and watches over it.
-- God wants people to be good, nice and fair to one another, as taught in most religions.
-- The goal of life is to be happy and to feel good about oneself.
-- God gets involved when we have problems we need solved.
-- Good people go to heaven.

So God is in there, somewhere, along with love, grace, kindness, tears, empathy, consolation, compassion, self-acceptance. A non-threatening faith that perhaps is more akin to generalized faith or spirituality rather than religion?

Here's more depth on it: http://www.christianpost.com/news/moralistic-therapeutic-deism-the-new-american-religion-6266/pageall.html


Not too far off from my own beliefs. TO me the goal in life is simpler; it's participation. Add to that "As best we can".

God doesn't get involved when we have problems, he's involved at all times. What we see as problems are challenges we need. (Not necessarily what we think we need and certainly not what other people think).

Good people have the satisfaction of being good people.

That's about it from me. Oh, if you like my latest revision of the Philisophical essay is now posted in Reviews under Articles, Philosophy.

Thanks,
Steve
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June 4, 2011 07:13 AM Forum: SCI-FI

Favorite Movies: Favorite Moments

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

Scott Mellis said:

Would enjoy hearing about some great movie moments.

Here are my top fives:

Movies:
The Fifth Element
Blade Runner
Alien
Forbidden Planet
War of the worlds 1950's version

Action Scenes:
Light saber fight with Darth Mol
Fighting invisible monster from the id
Serenity out of control and falling between laser beams
Lelu fighting Mangalors set to the deva's music
Indiana Jones punching the NAZI major right out of the Zeppelin "No ticket!"

Dramatic effect:
Klatu has just been shot. Gort appears, and its visor slowly opens
Wicked Witch of the West turns over the hourglass filled with red sand
Monster from the id melting away the impenetrable Krell-Metal door
Terminator emerges from the wreckage of the burning tanker truck
Sigorney Weaver in undies faces off with the Alien (well duhh)

Favorite lines:
"Goodbye... Penny..." Lost in Space, Mr. Nobody (as he appears as a whole galaxy)
"They have their fantasy. You have your reality. May your way be as pleasant." Star Trek, The Cage
"Dave, I'm afraid..." 2001
"That's a buffet table. How do we know, unless we question it?" Firefly, Shindig episode
"Ten seconds... And counting..." James Bond, You Only Live Twice

Thanks,
Steve
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June 7, 2011 02:56 AM Forum: Religion

Lady Gaga’s album Born This Way banned in Lebanon

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

William Paolini said:

So...should this have been banned?? If so, why, if not why? Should we expect anything else when something is not only against the grain but also offensive to the predominent portion of a culture? I mean we see it is the Islamic societies, we see it secularly with ideologies (remember Senator McCarthy inquisitions against Communists, etc). Seems to me that maybe the knee jerk reactions are many times because of the way something is said rather than what is said.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/lady-gaga-born-this-way-album-banned-by-lebanon-as-offensive-to-christianity-50844/

Hi All,
First, Lady Gaga is in the entertainment business, and says or sings whatever keeps her face in the news. Quite frankly she's nearly a carbon copy of Dale Bazzio, of Missing Persons (1980's). To all of which I can say, duh...

The fact that one country or another bans someone's musical message is pretty common outside the major western nations. There were attempts here to ban or otherwise control musical content. Frank Zappa used his fame and sharp wit to fight those attempts.

He asked; "Which nincompoop should be the judge of what free Americans listen to or read?"
Such is the minefield we enter when we suggest someone control us. My love for The United States is a love for what we aspire to be, not necessarily one aspect or another of popular culture.

To react to such silly things shows only a thin skin, and not much confidence in one's self. I still think "Kashmir" by Led Zeppelin is the best! Oh, not religious? Well then, "Ave Maria". Yeah, funny how that Catholic thing still lurks.

;-)
Steve
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June 14, 2011 01:35 PM Forum: Home Observatories

temperature and insulation

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

Robert Howe said:

I have a lovely roll-off with a peaked roof and eaves. The maker and original owner fit bits of insulation into the spaces under the eaves and covered the inside with soft and hard insulation. As the building ages and I perform maintenance, I find my self wondering, why try to insulate a roll-off observatory? Isn't the idea of keeping the scopes outdoors being to let them be at ambient temperature?

Hi Robert,
What part of the country do you live in?

In the Phoenix area, I'm considering air conditioning for my observatory. Set the thermostat at the average temp for nights at a given time of year, and the deltas for cool-down or warm up won't be
so severe.

When I kept the scope in the house at 78*, and evening temp outdoors was 97* F, it would take an hour or two to warm up. Dramatic changes in temperature can be a challenge.

Steve
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June 14, 2011 01:59 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

Amazing Actual Scientific Measurements Of Glaciers

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

Hi Dave,
You're unselling what you sold. At first you say it's hysterical to use a few years of satellite photos to build a model for glacial recession, then you say two German scientists do exactly that to claim no change.

You're also using data from one glacier in Pakistan.

New Zealand's major glaciers have been receding steadily. The face of the Frans Joeseph alone is five miles back up valley from photos taken in 1877. Snow fields in Glacier Nation Park are a small percentage of what they were when the park was established. Luckily this year they got dumped on. Alaska has been loosing both glaciers and tundra at an amazing rate. Even in 1983 Antarctica's ice movements and volume were a concern. Since I was there in just the last twenty years huge chunks of the Ross Ice Shelf have broken off and floated north.

The loss of glaciers and of tundra are well documented, and not by hysterical people. So is the increase in average global temperature.

If you want to indicate global warming is not a concern, or that it's part of a natural cycle, then your story would have more credibility. For example, the recent volcano in Chili, put more greenhouse gas, sulfer dioxide and ash into the air in one event than could produce in
twenty years.

Obviously I contend Global Warming is real, and of some concern, however its cause is as yet unclear.

Thanks,
Steve
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June 23, 2011 02:56 AM Forum: No Holds Barred

This is a real joke! Crazy athiests!

Posted By Steve Hollenbach

Doug Matulis said:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/21/new-york-atheists-angry-over-heaven-street-sign-honoring-11victims/

Hi Doug,
First, the sign is tacky as can be, and I just don't like it. This is due in part to its judgmental nature, but mostly just because it lacks the dignity those firefighters deserve. If the intent is to honor them, name streets after each of them.

Second, as for the separation of church and state, the protesters are simply too thin skinned. Why not travel to St. Louis and complain about the name of that city or the many "St. Suburbs" surrounding it?

I can certainly see why you or any of us would doubt the credibility of the story. I wouldn't have used "Church & State" on this. Lack of dignity, perhaps due to a poor education system and the erosion of the English language, would have been reason enough.

Steve
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