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December 19, 2019 06:31 PM Forum: Politics

Fox News Poll: Impeach And Remove!

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
I'm sorry I was late to the party. (I was out doing cartwheels in the cul de sac.) 
The bastard's been impeached! He didn't want it on his resume. Now it's there in indelible ink! 
Now Pelosi is upping the ante on Moscow Mitch. She may withhold sending the articles of impeachment to the senate unless the pricks agree to a fair trial with witnesses, ie Bolton and company. Talk about turning up the heat...
PS  Fun fact: You know what the public support was for impeaching Nixon? 19%...

SNORT!.......You sound like you think there is a chance the senate might confirm it LOL

December 19, 2019 10:22 PM Forum: Politics

Fox News Poll: Impeach And Remove!

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by James Lacey


The letter is full of false claims and outright falsehoods. By the way, it looks like WH counsel was cut entirely out of the authorship of this letter. That explains a lot. 

Sez who? You? LOL

December 20, 2019 08:57 AM Forum: Politics

Fox News Poll: Impeach And Remove!

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by James Brown

Also, there was no need for Schiff and Pelosi to skip the Courts.  The Courts can move quickly in these circumstances, and when they do it can be the end of the Executive in question.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon

So, in my view, Schiff and Pelosi malpracticed the impeachment - assuming that the testimony of Bolton, Pompeo, and the rest would have bolstered the Abuse of Power Article.  This should piss off Ds and Anti-Trumpers everywhere, but it is probably too arcane a point for most folks.  It is not too arcane a point for Schiff and Pelosi though.  Their advisers know the law.  These two chose to rush this through for political expediency, even though it guaranteed no removal from office.  Schiff gave up on any possibility* to have Trump's wikki article end something like this:

"The Court held that a claim of Presidential privilege as to materials subpoenaed for use in a criminal trial cannot override the needs of the judicial process if that claim is based, not on the ground that military or diplomatic secrets are implicated, but merely on the ground of a generalized interest in confidentiality. Nixon was then ordered to deliver the subpoenaed materials to the District Court.  Nixon resigned sixteen days later, on August 9, 1974."

It is laughable to think now that the House or Schummer will shame McConnell into doing the House's job and corralling these witnesses for Senate hearings.

Jim

* (yes James, any possibility"so far" cool)

I would agree with pretty much all your points on this one Jim......

December 20, 2019 09:46 PM Forum: Politics

Fox News Poll: Impeach And Remove!

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Jim,
Trump gave standing orders for all of his staff to ignore Congressional subpoenas and requests for appearances before their committees. Everyone of 
'em. No president has done that before. And if the Democrats went to the courts and won, which in many cases they have, what does the Trump administration do? Appeal and appeal and appeal, all in an effort to thwart and obstruct congress. Trump and company got what they deserved... 

Went to the courts and won WHAT? Never heard or saw one peep about the impeachment gang going to court for anything related to impeachment since it started......

December 21, 2019 11:31 PM Forum: Politics

Fox News Poll: Impeach And Remove!

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Here is a little something for consideration.....It was the Cost to end the Democrat Party... Impeachment was the Leverage which the Democrats used to try and force a deal with Trump not to investigate Democrat Corruption in Ukraine.....Trump just took a bullet for the American People because he believes restoring justice is more important than looking the other way..... Durham and Zelinsky have the Goods to blow the Ukraine/Democrat corruption wide open so it was a small price to pay for draining the swamp.....Heads are going to roll.

Obviously their ploy did not work as intended and I have my doubts that the articles they passed will ever be sent over for the senate to take up as they know it wont go anywhere. Pelosi wants nothing more than to distance herself from it now and has openly stated she is done talking about it.

I also agree the senate does not need them to submit the articles in order to call it up and put it to rest.....That may well just happen.

December 22, 2019 04:29 AM Forum: Politics

Fox News Poll: Impeach And Remove!

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

How does it feel to be a “useful idiot” 

Pretty good actually.....Seems Richard has already handled the light work for me so I will leave it at that lol

December 22, 2019 09:13 AM Forum: Politics

Bloomberg says 21 students shot every day under Trump

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Mel Maki
How could he be so unaware of what is happening? I'm assuming he believes it.

I am pretty sure he doesnt believe it.....but he is operating from the same tired playbook nearly all the Dims operate from. If you repeat a lie often enough and loudly enough otherwise intelligent people will buy into it. We have a microcosm of Dims right here on this message board who consistently demonstrate they buy into nearly every lie that comes out of the Dim politicians and the MSM. 

December 22, 2019 02:07 PM Forum: Politics

Fox News Poll: Impeach And Remove!

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

I know you'd rather divert attention away from the topic of the thread but there is is no evidence of wrongdoing of the Bidens in the Ukraine. I could post links to multiple fact checks on it but you'd ignore them anyway and you probably believe in the plethora of lies emanating from the impeached so there's no point in doing so. In fact, you'll buy into whatever Rudy is peddling these days even if he winds up doing time... 

SNORT!! So ol Joe was just shooting shit about nothing on camera bragging how he blackmailed them into firing that prosecutor using tax payer funds to do so huh?  You are an idiot lol

December 23, 2019 12:59 AM Forum: Politics

Fox News Poll: Impeach And Remove!

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll



Ol Joe was implementing US (and international) policy in the furtherance of our national security interests in getting rid of a criminal. Trump was helping his re-election campaign by trying to knock off Joe Biden.

WOW....you really are living in your own head.....

December 24, 2019 12:37 AM Forum: Politics

Fox News Poll: Impeach And Remove!

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Mel Maki
Your first sentence is the Dem version of events. About half of the voters don't see it that way. The House had their chance to convince everybody. They failed.  

Failed spectacularly....The whole thing reeks of desperation.....