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Posts Made By: Tom Rodstrom

August 31, 2004 10:02 PM Forum: Politics

Re: Colin Powell speech

Posted By Tom Rodstrom

We have heard from Giuliani and McCain. When will we hear from the only credible member of Bush's staff?


September 1, 2004 06:03 AM Forum: Politics

September 3, 2004 04:28 PM Forum: Politics

The Cheney Delima

Posted By Tom Rodstrom

I was reading that pinko rag, Business Week, and came across an article about Cheney and Halliburton. 8)

While Cheney was CEO, Halliburton changed its accounting practices to increase their stated profit by 46% even though the business itself didn't change. The company decided not to tell the stockholders and the "former controller and chief financial officer ... are being fined and sued," but the buck stops there. Cheney the CEO who is paid big bucks to run the company didn't know about the accounting change. The company he ran increased its profit by nearly half and Cheney didn't notice or didn't bother to find out why. This alone is good reason why Cheney should not be allowed a position of responsibility in Government, much less run it for Bush.

What Cheney Should Have Known
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/aug2004/nf2004085_4878_db045.htm

There are only two possible explanations of how Cheney was involved in this scandal:

1. He is corrupt and lied about what he knew.
2. He is incompetent and not fit to be Vice President.


I think the first answer is the truth.


September 4, 2004 01:32 PM Forum: Politics

Miller the 13th Part 1

Posted By Tom Rodstrom

Zell Miller twists and slashes the truth like a monster from a horror movie.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=16&u=/ap/cvn_miller_text

Let's take a look at the whole speech.

Paragraphs 1 - 8 are fine rhetoric that say Zell supports Bush.

Paragraphs 9 - 10 compare WWII to the war in Iraq. There is no comparison. WWII was an attack by a superpowers that threatened our very very existence. Iraq didn't attack America and was not a threat to our existence.

Paragraphs 11 - 15 are a moving story about one persons response to WWII. Once again Bush's war in Iraq is not World War II.

16. >>> Where is the bipartisanship in this country when we need it most?

There can be no bipartisanship when the president who represents all of the people completely ignores all of the wishes of half the electorate.

17. >>> Now, while young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrat's manic obsession to bring down our Commander in Chief.

The Democrats only want to replace a woefully inadequate president who's failed policies got us into an unnecessary war in Iraq and who's pathetic planning and execution of that war has led to thousands of unnecessary American casualties and which now has the people we "liberated" looking at us as occupiers.

18. >>> What has happened to the party I've spent my life working in? 19. I can remember when Democrats believed that it was the duty of America to fight for freedom over tyranny.

The Democrats are still here, but we believe that Democracy is best spread by diplomacy and example rather than by preemptive invasions of sovereign nations. That is exactly the same failed method that Russia used to spread Communism.

20. >>> It was Democratic President Harry Truman who pushed the Red Army out of Iran, who came to the aid of Greece when Communists threatened to overthrow it, who stared down the Soviet blockade of West Berlin by flying in supplies and saving the city.

Truman proved a Democrat could defend America, but these victories were a result of diplomacy and aid, not of military invasions. The Russians left Iran after getting oil concessions. In Greece we supplied advisers and military aid, but let the Greeks do the fighting for their own freedom. In West Berlin, we stood for our principles and won without firing a shot.

21. >>> Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today.

Democrats did work with Bush to fight the danger to America - al Qaeda. Before the war, Iraq was not a danger to America. Once Iraq was invaded, freedom could have been secured with a much smaller cost in lives, money, and American prestige if Bush had even a mediocre plan for post war Iraq.

22. >>> Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator. 23. And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers rather than liberators.

Democrats do not see the America as an occupier in Iraq, it is the Iraqi people who we "liberated" who see us as occupiers. This is a direct result of Bush's failed post war policies.

24. >>> Tell that to the one-half of Europe that was freed because Franklin Roosevelt led an army of liberators, not occupiers. 25. Tell that to the lower half of the Korean Peninsula that is free because Dwight Eisenhower commanded an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Europe and South Korea were occupied by invading armies. Iraq was occupied by Iraqi's. There is a difference.

26. >>> Tell that to the half a billion men, women and children who are free today from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to Siberia, because Ronald Reagan rebuilt a military of liberators, not occupiers.

These countries are free because we stood by our principles until the idea of Democracy triumphed over the idea of Communism, not because we invaded with bombs and bullets.

27. >>> Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier. And, our soldiers don't just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home. 28. For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. 29. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. 30. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag.

Yes, we earned our freedom and our soldiers often do defend freedom when it is attacked by outside forces.

31. >>> No one should dare to even think about being the Commander in Chief of this country if he doesn't believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home.

Yes, but he must provide the leadership and resources to make sure that our troops do not look and act like occupiers to the people who are being "liberated".

32. >>> But don't waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking America is the problem, not the solution. 33. They don't believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself through our clumsy and misguided foreign policy.

Democrats are well aware of all the dangers to America. When you call most of the people, and most of the nations in the world irrelevant, you have a "clumsy and misguided foreign policy" and that is a problem since it has been shown over and over that diplomacy beats bombs in defeating an idea.


September 4, 2004 03:45 PM Forum: Politics

Miller the 13th Part 2

Posted By Tom Rodstrom

More of Zell Miller twisting and slashing the truth.

Starting at paragraph 34.

34. >>> It is not their patriotism — it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking. They claimed Carter's pacifism would lead to peace. 35. They were wrong. 36. They claimed Reagan's defense buildup would lead to war. 37. They were wrong. 38. And, no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry .

Bush is no Reagan, and Kerry is no Carter.

Paragraphs 39 through 49 list all the weapons systems that were on bills that Kerry voted against for twenty years. What is doesn't say is why he voted against them. In many (if not most) cases Kerry voted against them to balance the budget or because they were amended to include too much pork or to push some unacceptable agenda. The current Republican controlled Congress does not hesitate to use defense bills in support of our troops as a way to pass amendments with their pork projects or favorite agenda. While we are talking about defense cuts, Cheney killed a lot weapons systems while he was Secretary of Defense for Bush 1 and Rumsfeld is champion of the leaner meaner military. Here is another perspective:

http://www.independentsforkerry.org/info/index.php?category_id=1272

50. >>> Senator Kerry has made it clear that he would use military force only if approved by the United Nations.

Kerry would get the UN involved in most operations using the military. Kerry would not hesitate to use the military to defend America. When the chips are down and it's time for action, Kerry would not sit there with a blank stare while our Nation burns. He proved that in Vietnam.

51. >>> Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. 52. I want Bush to decide.

Bush did decide and he was WRONG, DEAD WRONG. America did not need defending from Iraq.

53. >>> John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.

Kerry does not want to outsource our security. He wants to convince the world that our cause is right so that our traditional allies help shoulder the moral, monetary and human cost of a military campaign. Bush was unwilling or unable to do that.

54. >>> That's the most dangerous outsourcing of all. This politician wants to be leader of the free world. 55. Free for how long?

A leader of the free world must arouse and motivate the nations of the free world. You cannot do that by calling them "irrelevant". Bush has not led the free world or led America. He has simply pursued his personal agenda without regard for the free nations of the world or the best interests of the people of America.

56. >>> For more than 20 years, on every one of the great issues of freedom and security, John Kerry has been more wrong, more weak and more wobbly than any other national figure.

Pure rhetoric since none of the issues are mentioned.

57. >>> As a war protester, Kerry blamed our military.

Kerry blamed our government for getting us into an unjust war that could not be won.

58. >>> As a Senator, he voted to weaken our military. And nothing shows that more sadly and more clearly than his vote this year to deny protective armor for our troops in harms way, far away.

Kerry first voted for the bill when it contained a tax increase for the wealthiest 1 percent to pay for it. Bush threatened to veto the bill for protective armor for our troops, because of the tax provision. The bill that Kerry voted against did not have the tax increase. He knew that the bill had more that enough support to pass so he voted against it on principle. The fact the Bush attacks him on this vote just proves that Bush is an unprincipled hack.

59. >>> George Bush understands that we need new strategies to meet new threats. 60. John Kerry wants to re-fight yesterday's war. George Bush believes we have to fight today's war and be ready for tomorrow's challenges. George Bush is committed to providing the kind of forces it takes to root out terrorists.

Bush IS fighting yesterday's war. Fighting an idea with tanks and guns is almost never successful. We tried it in Vietnam. Russia and Israel have been fighting Islamic extremists with tanks and guns for decades and all they have "won" is a never ending spiral of violence. Now, we are doing the same. Hitler and Stalin knew that the only way a gun could beat an idea is through genocide. I hope we do not sink to that level.

61. >>> No matter what spider hole they may hide in or what rock they crawl under. 62. George Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let them go to get a better grip.

We all want to do that, but it is just not that simple. Terrorists hide in the normal population. The best way to grab them by the throat is to get the normal, peace loving members of that society to turn them in.

63. >>> From John Kerry, they get a "yes-no-maybe" bowl of mush that can only encourage our enemies and confuse our friends.

John Kerry has a chance to regain the friends and respect that America worked hard to build up for decades and that Bush squandered in a matter of months. Kerry can provide the stick, the carrot and the moral leadership so that radical Muslims will have to wonder how long it will be before their neighbors turn on them.

Paragraphs 64 and 65 are simply glowing rhetoric for Bush

66. >>> He is not a slick talker but he is a straight shooter and, where I come from, deeds mean a lot more than words.

He is not a slick talker so we will let his deeds talk for him; unnecessary war, gutted environmental protections, historic budget deficits, historic trade deficits, weak economy, unprecedented job losses, tax breaks for the very wealthy, diminished personal freedoms, and a country more divided than it has been in recent history.

67. >>> I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home, a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel.

You should have knocked on his head and tried to wake him up. If he has a spine of steel, it must have been transplanted sometime after he decided to take flying lessons rather than fight the war in Vietnam.

Paragraph 68 to 73 are just rhetoric.

74. >>> God Bless this great country and God Bless George W. Bush.

God Bless this great country and God save it from George W. Bush.

To use a phrase coined by Colin Powell about Iraq, George Bush has been a "catastrophic success", it's time to end the catastrophy.



September 8, 2004 12:39 AM Forum: Politics

Bush gets a PERFECT score!

Posted By Tom Rodstrom

After years of searching, I finally found something Bush is really good at. He received a "perfect 100 for flying without navigational instruments". Why am I not surprised? wink

Lawsuit Gets Bush Guard Papers Out

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20040907/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_national_guard



September 9, 2004 12:14 AM Forum: Politics

Re: Dems tolerant - NOT

Posted By Tom Rodstrom

Jim, the caption says:

A heckler, shouting at John Kerry about Vietnam war atrocities, was manhandled by sheetmetal workers sitting nearby and escorted from the building.

If you notice, these are NOT Kerry campaign workers, but ordinary American working men. It is quite likely the person in the picture is a sheet metal worker who's job has been exported and who is now having trouble supporting his family. sad



September 16, 2004 08:19 PM Forum: Politics

Who made this statement?

Posted By Tom Rodstrom

"Our committee heard blindly optimistic people from the administration prior to the war and people outside the administration — what I call the 'dancing in the street crowd' — that we just simply will be greeted with open arms," ... "The nonsense of all of that is apparent. The lack of planning is apparent."


September 23, 2004 07:29 AM Forum: Politics

Bush enviornmental policies are working.

Posted By Tom Rodstrom

After years of increasingly successful Government attempts to deprive our lungs of toxic sulfer dioxide, our forests of toxic rain, and our lakes and streams of mercury, Bush's enviornmental policy coupled with Cheney's energy policy* is starting to take effect.

*Cheney's energy policy were crafed in open meetings**.

**Open to industry insiders only.

Acid Rain Pollution Up 4 Percent in 2003

http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=World&cat=Pollution


September 24, 2004 10:24 PM Forum: Politics

Re: How Bizarre

Posted By Tom Rodstrom

"But from a Viacom standpoint, we believe the election of a Republican administration is better for our company."

No doubt about it, Bush is better for big business and Viacom is one of the biggest. If you are rich or have interest in a big business Bush is your man. Mega mergers, vertical markets, and diminished competition are all good for business, but are they good for the middle class core of America?

It's something to think about as you wait in traffic in front of a Mega Wallmart to get some cheap Chinese products that will last a year if you are lucky.