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April 12, 2020 02:08 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Greg Shaffer

In the face of no other known effective prescription I am perfectly willing to try whatever has shown some positive results is all I am saying.....when nothing else is known for a fact to be effective then trying to convince people not to try something that may be their answer just flat doesnt make sense to me......

I see it the same as I do the "miracle cancer cures" for which there is a lot of anecdotal evidence but no actual in depth clinical trials....marijuana for instantance. If the doc tells me sorry but its terminal and you have x months to get your affairs straight, you can bet I will quickly become an expert on making and using the oil......

Or the cure regarding changing the alkalinity of your system to highly alkaline can kill off the cancer.....if I am gonna die otherwise I will become Mr Alkaline in short order.....

April 12, 2020 06:41 AM Forum: Politics

The USA Is Now Number 1

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

No, I would rather not die but I believe taking something based upon dubious claims that aren't substantiated makes a heckuva a lot of sense... 

So we are agreed then.....if you are dying taking pretty much anything makes a heck of a lot of sense if it happens to work.....lol

April 12, 2020 07:33 AM Forum: Politics

The USA Is Now Number 1

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Hey Rich.....You need a copy of this.....got mine

April 12, 2020 08:29 AM Forum: Politics

The USA Is Now Number 1

Posted By Greg Shaffer

The wheels still continue to turn in Trump's favor.....another one of the left's favorite whipping posts before Covid gets ripped out of the ground which of course is certain not to make the MSM.....

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mnuchin-acted-properly-when-withholding-trumps-tax-returns-from-congress-ig_3307800.html

April 12, 2020 09:00 AM Forum: Politics

The USA Is Now Number 1

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

"before Covid gets ripped out of the ground which of course is certain not to make the MSM....."
WTF?

Read it again carefully Rod.....it clearly means before covid came along it was one of the left's favorite goto's for bashing Trump....and its been shot down (as it should have been) and that it is unlikely to make the MSM news cycle (pretty much a certainty)

April 12, 2020 10:49 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Richard Davis


No, Greg has been very consistent from what I've read from him.  He simply has said that there are people who've used it on their patients with good results.  

YOUR side has been touting it as a joke or pseudoscience.  Do I need to remind you that your buddy here said about Hydroxychoroquine, "these Doctors are engaging in wishful thinking at best or grasping at straws at worst".

Those were his words.  That's pretty definitive in saying that the HCQ is a joke and doesn't work at all.  Saying that a doctor is 'grasping at straws' if they are using it doesn't amount to his claim now, that he never said it may not be effective.  

I think the words above speak differently.  

Greg is also less of a hard rock "I think these numbers are way overblown" than I am.

I'll stick to my guns that these numbers ARE such that there doesn't need to be the hysterics that have been going along with them.

Greg is way more open than I am to the possibility that this virus is really, really bad.

I was on the phone yesterday with a buddy in Denver whose Son and Fiancee' seemed to have contracted what now appears to have been the Coronavirus.  

I didn't even know about their incident until yesterday.

They were in Vermont vacationing, and became sick.

This was Early February.  They both were in bad shape.  He told me he picked them up at the airport and they looked terrible

He told me yesterday that his son relayed to him the idea, that he and she were VERY ill.

The symptoms were right along line with Corona symptoms.  He said they were sick for 2 weeks.  

Perhaps they had it.  Greg, the father did not get infected or if he did, he never had symptoms. My buddy Greg has this belief that he is a "carrier"

Coincidentally, this date in time coincides to the time Greg's wife became very ill.  It was in Mid February.  My guess is that Greg passed it on to her.

I was up there at that time and I told him "you need to get her to the Doctor as she's in bad shape".  They never went.  

I'm looking forward to the day testing comes out to see if one "Had it" at one time.  My guess is that his son and the Fiancee' did in fact have it.  

It is possible that I had it sometime in the past few months.  

Greg has been one of the more reasonable, open individuals about the seriousness of this illness.  

I believe we agree on even more than you think we do.....

There is little doubt in my mind that the media and much of DC is using this to gin up fear using statistics and public manipulation for political purposes.

90% of those who have had to be hospitalized have underlying conditions....yet you dont hear that being mentioned by anyone even though the data shows it. Instead they try to convince us that it is deadly dangerous to the majority.......The reality is for most it is simply a new variety of the flu and in most of those cases even mild.....

That said it is still very dangerous IMO but simply because of how contagious it is and the fact that nearly noone has defenses against it.....it is very close to a not if but when for everyone. The primary danger is still letting it proliferate too fast and overwhelm the medical end of things.

April 12, 2020 09:33 PM Forum: Politics

The USA Is Now Number 1

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Yeah right, that's why I read about that crap on The Hill and MSM  a day or two ago. The covid reference is still nutzoid, though. And, Greg, it's not the flu, either. It's a novel virus, meaning a new one and not a morphed influenza virus. It may cause symptoms similar to the flu but it's definitely not the flu, as per your statement from another post:
"The reality is for most it is simply a new variety of the flu"
"Influenza (the flu) and COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, are both infectious respiratory illnesses. Although the symptoms of COVID-19 and the flu can look similar, the two illnesses are caused by different viruses."John Hopkins resource 

Well aware of the difference dumbass.....the point was they have similar symptoms (which it would appear we agree on). Starting to wonder about your reading comprehension skills lol

You consider The Hill a MSM source? Really? Guess I shouldnt be surprised.....

April 13, 2020 12:52 AM Forum: Politics

The USA Is Now Number 1

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

Rod, serious question (and for any other of us dumbasses)

why do you interact at all with someone who publicly calls you a dumbass? I mean, what possible reason is there to reason with someone like that? Of what possible value is anything conveyed?

it may be confusing that I would respond on occasion to a post by Richard or Greg, but I frankly don’t even read their posts and just get the general gist of what they’re saying and respond at them not to them. I don’t even care if I get wrong what they typed.

Russ

Ahhh and another dumbass chimes in lol

April 13, 2020 01:07 AM Forum: Politics

The USA Is Now Number 1

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Greg, my point is that while they may have similar symptoms in some cases the fact remains they are two entirely DIFFERENT DISEASES. And that's what's really important here, and much of what you may hear on Fox or on other conservative outlets frequently fixates on the similarities versus the aforementioned fact.
Just as ONE example of a major difference between the two diseases is the fact that there are many asymptomatic carriers of the coronavirus who spread it around while there are very few, if any, asymptomatic carriers of the flu. But since you're not a dumbass, I'm sure you knew that, right?...

I am not sure the term "many" is applicable but it is a fair point and yes I did......It been months since I watched Foxnews though, in fact I get the impression based on your posts you watch it far more than I ever did.....that is not to say I dont view some clips from that channel via youtube if the caption intrigues me. Case in point how often do you see me share a foxnews clip on here? They are few and far between.......

As for Dumbass #2 aka Russ's comments both of you should understand I could not care less if either of you responded to anything from me lol......now if you were signing my paychecks I might feel differently smile

When I said symptoms I really meant symptoms not anything related to how they spread.....I called you a dumbass because you actually thought you needed to explain in great detail specifics about covid as if you think I am not aware....I am pretty sure by now everyone here is well versed in the details and to assume not makes you a dumbass lol

April 13, 2020 01:38 AM Forum: Politics

The USA Is Now Number 1

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

"I am not sure the term "many" is applicable..."
"Researchers say 25 percent to 50 percent of people with COVID-19 are unaware they have the virus.
This allows the novel coronavirus to spread more rapidly throughout a community.
Experts say these carriers without symptoms make it even more important for people to wear face masks in public."
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-with-covid19-not-aware-have-virus

I am going to go with 25% or less....and likely a LOT less. A lot of statistical manipulation going on with this by people with an agenda.....I am sure you will disagree lol

Thats not to say there are none though.....generally there is truth behind all manipulations.