Posts Made By: Brian McFarland

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Ahhhh yes the Kabuki Theatre.....

The simple fact that the Constitution states that the Chief Justice SHALL preside over a Presidential impeachment trial and he scoffed at the idea says it all.....No Chief Justice presiding demotes it to nothing but Kabuki Theatre.....

Originally Posted by James Lacey

I think those people always existed. I'm not sure they were a significant constituency until Trump came along. He's the one that gave them oxygen and brought them into the tent. But yeah, the Republicans made a deal with the Devil, and now the Devil wants his due.

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Yup, we're already seeing it: "Nikki Haley breaks with Trump: 'We shouldn't have followed him"

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/538573-haley-breaks-with-trump-we-shouldnt-have-followed-him

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Brian:

I think you are overestimating the attention span of the average voter.  We won't know until 24 or 28 for sure, but if (key "if" there) Biden gives the people reason to distrust him, dislike him, or he has a crummy economy - war - some sort of catastrophe or scandal, any number of things, then the short attention span of the voters will kick in and they'll flock to Haley or whomever the R candidate might be.

I certainly hope none of that comes to pass.  A Biden cake-walk in 2024 would certainly reflect decent times in the country over the next 4 years.  People will be hungry for change in 2028 though, they always are.

Jim

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Again Bullshit....impeachment starts with being charged with wrongdoing. Unless you are convicted of that wrongdoing then you were not impeached.....simply stating he was impeached implies he was found guilty. He wasnt. I realize that doesnt fit your and the left's agenda but facts are facts regardless of how hard you wish they were not.

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Nope. Impeachment is only the process of charging and trying the official. Honestly, I have no idea why you want to die on this hill. Anyone can look up the definition of impeachment as defined in the US. If it makes you feel better to think he was never impeached, a completely false assertion, then knock yourself out.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Perhaps both of you should read up on it..... semantics is a tool of the ignorant and you two want your cake and eat it too. 

When you say someone was impeached, that implies consequences. The only consequences of a Presidential impeachment are removal from office and losing the right to run again for office. Neither Clinton nor Trump suffered those consequences.....You can say there was an attempted impeachment but not that either was impeached. Why dig in and die on that hill claiming otherwise? The only reason I can fathom is it sounds good to your bruised feelings that it wasnt successful.....

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Nope....you defeated yourself with your own words.

He wasnt convicted of murder therefor he was deemed innocent. Trump was acquitted and therefor not impeached. It is pretty simple.

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

Too bad we don’t have a lawyer around here to settle the matter. My take is the House of Representatives draft the articles of Impeachment, thus he is impeached. The Senator has the trial to find if he’s guilty or not. Pretty clear cut to me. Clinton and Trump x 2 have been impeached. Nixon resigned before the Articles of Impeachment were taken to the Senate.