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Posts Made By: Mark hoefler

May 9, 2011 10:15 PM Forum: Religion

Waste of space?

Posted By Mark hoefler

William Paolini said:

In the Movie Contact the question is asked if we are alone in the universe, to which the reply is, "If it's just us, it seems like an awful waste of space."

Question, let's assume that except for Earth and the Human race, that the universe is indeed devoid of any other intelligent life, maybe any other life at all.

Would you then consider God's work, His creation, as essentially a waste of space if in all the vastness it was only us who inhabited it?

The movie obviously had religious overtones. From a religious standpoint, and in the context of the movie, it does seem appropriate to Jodie Foster's character as non-religious to think this, but does it seem appropriate to Matthew McConaughey's character as a religious person?

If this were true, it would cement into my head that no God exists. I cannot see why a supreme being would create such vastness, especially when we are then incapable of seeing, getting, or utilizing it.

Interesting question for sure.

I can't answer the other questions since it has been several years since I have seen the movie.

May 14, 2011 12:26 PM Forum: Religion

Is your God different from my God?

Posted By Mark hoefler

William Paolini said:

For the three major religions we usually deal with, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, are the characteristics of God as described in the scriptures from each of these religions, different in any way?

So does any passage in texts from the Islamic scriptures/sacred texts, as example, protray God differently in any fundamental way how scriptures/sacred texts portray God in Christianity, or in Judaisms?

These three religions are supposed to be referencing the same God, so do any of them portray God differently in some fundamental way? If not a fundamental way then in some minor way? If you don't have the references to back up your points, or if the points you provide are your understanding based on what you've come to know about the religions that are not yours, would appreciate that you make that fact clear so we don't have any misunderstandings. IMO it is also valuable to voice what we might have as an understanding based on media or discussion, then hopefully someone who practices the said religion can set us straight one way or the other and give us some references.

For me, I don't have any understanding that the God of Judaism and the God of Christianity are any different in character, motive, or action from each other at all. I don't feel as firmly about Islam though, not based on any evidence from their texts, but just the way the popular American media and culture reacts most of the time makes one feel there must be some fundamental differences -- I certainly don't see any differences based on what I observe from my family members who are Muslims as they paint quite a different picture than th media/popular culture does. So not talking the practices of the adherents to the religion, but talking the source texts which define the religion. Are there any differences to be found there?

I am 46 years old and never realized this. How could I overlook this incredibly important and obvious fact? I feel really humbled right now......

This begs the question of why there is so much conflict? If the three religions believe in the same god, but do so in slightly different ways, why do the different religions "fight" with eachother?

May 17, 2011 11:59 AM Forum: Politics

Things that make you go huh?

Posted By Mark hoefler

Here is one for you........
My nephew attends a middle school here in jefferson county colorado. Many people have seen his principle give girls hugs and heard him say things that were a bit off.
To be clear, the principle has not done anything illegal, but very much inappropriate. My nephew was uncomfortable with this and told his father(a police officer). His dad made him make a report.
Keep in mind, that many people have seen what was reported.
The day after the report, my nephew was suspended pending a hearing. Then expelled. Further, he was charged with making a false report, put on probation for one year and looked at a little jail time. He never did jail as that was suspended pending a good outcome from his probation.
This is all 100% true. I have left a lot of details out for brevity sake, but the crux of what is here is true.

Yeah, out cops and legal system in colorado are corrupt.

May 18, 2011 11:29 AM Forum: Politics

Ix-nay on The Donald

Posted By Mark hoefler

bummer he quit.
Can you imagine how many men would have loved to say that a comb over was in style? 8O smile