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Posts Made By: Russ Carroll

January 14, 2026 04:17 AM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Dave, replying to two of your threads here, but the odds of ICE “stormtroopers” being redeployed to swing districts to throw the election are the same as the odds of us capturing your PM and taking over Canada.    0% to any reasonable mind, >50% within your particularly paranoid bubble.   Please let’s remember to revisit this after the elections.

Regardless, you know who stops people without probable cause and demands their papers??? The fucking Gestapo.

January 14, 2026 03:28 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

Warrantless immigration stops are subject to abuse for sure, even though they are permitted by law only when the agent has reasonable suspicion that the detained person is here illegally.   Afterward there are deportation hearings observing the reduced level of due process afforded non citizens.  Sometimes there are deportations.   Beats being incinerated alive and then bulldozed into a mass grave right?

Do I like Trump’s political supercharging of this easily abused process?   Not at all.   Are congressional reforms needed?   You bet.  

Even so, you and Dave’s “jackbooted stormtrooper fucking Gestapo” comments make you both look like idiots.   Historically illiterate fools.   Write a short paragraph about the Gestapo’s actual enforcement from arrest to execution and get back to me.   And don’t play the “I was exaggerating to make a point” card unless you want me to start calling you Donald.   Both of you.

Relative to US norms, they are acting like a Gestapo security police force. I didn't know it at the time, but Joe Rogan yesterday made the same comparison.

Do you really think this is only about immigration enforcement? A masked armed force that now goes after protesters? Did you sleep through Trumps first term when he asked Gen Milley to use the military on protesters? When he asked about firing live rounds into protesters??

Trump was rebuffed last time from doing it. He won't be stopped this time if the events and trends of the past month are any indication.

I'll repeat what I've told you before, you have been so emerged in a normal system for so long, you can't conceive of an extreme outcome - you may be right that it won't happen, but you are 100% wrong that it can't happen.

January 14, 2026 03:58 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

I never said it can’t happen.   I said it won’t happen.  

I am not defending the agent who shot the woman, OK.   That looks really bad or incompetent at best.   That said, protestors should protest without direct interference in law enforcement.    I do not believe ICE has shot up or arrested protesters who were merely protesting.   Did I miss an event?   Or are you confusing the US with Iran?

They are terrorizing a community lawlessly.

Yes, they are not going to execute 6 million hispanics. No, it is not even hyperbole anymore to use this vile comparison because of how serious the violations of civil liberties are relative to who we are and what we stand for.

Ice is literally demanding ID from total strangers where there is ZERO evidence that they have committed a crime, a violation any police department knows will put them on the wrong end of a lawsuit.

January 14, 2026 04:00 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

By the way, a Gestapo security force would have seized and executed Chuck Schumer by now.

I'm less worried about that and much more worried about how a 2020-type election would play out given what is now a large and obedient internal security force run by a madman.

January 14, 2026 04:02 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

I never said it can’t happen.   I said it won’t happen.  

Your words betray you. Your posts indicate by their substance that you do not believe it's possible, at least IMO.

January 14, 2026 04:37 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

I’m wasting my time now, but according to the Supreme Court undocumented immigrants who crossed illegally have due process rights, but not the same rights afforded citizens.   Your “lawlessly” comment is wrong.

They are arresting US Citizens as well as non-US Citizens.

January 14, 2026 04:41 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

That is BS.    What is happening in this thread is that when I call out hyperbole and performative nonsense, you, Dave, and maybe others assume I am a closeted Trump supporter.   I do not believe Trump using ICE to overthrow an election is remotely likely, even if it is “possible.”

While we’re at the game of ascribing points of view, I don’t believe that you think the fall is imminent or likely.   Have you done anything in preparation other than voice indignation?

Look, when I say someone is "shitfaced", I am not saying their face is made of shit. It's a pejorative, man. Get over it.

No, I do not think this will happen, but I do believe there will be a very damaging confrontation that will be violent and do long-term damage to our nation. We are seeing the precursor of it now

The judiciary is notoriously slow at intervening and not designed to contain an asshole like Trump - no, he is literally not a physical asshole, it's a pejorative.

January 14, 2026 04:55 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

By the way, you know what is unambiguously lawless?   A mayor or governor saying “you can’t enforce federal law in my jurisdiction” is absolutely lawless.   Now, since I said that, you’ll think that I implicitly agree with Trump’s tactics.   So it goes when dealing with the irrationality indignant.   It’s a risk I take.   Still, like it or not, enforcing federal law anywhere in the union is lawful.

DO I LOOK LIKE RICHARD TO YOU? grin

January 15, 2026 01:02 AM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by Richard Davis


Fucking Gestapo?

That's what ICE is, the very same tactics?  Ever read a book on post WWI and WWII Germany?

I ask, because based on your histrionics you appear to lack the most basic knowledge of that time period and the truth about the Third Reich.

And the sad, sorry part is that imbecilic minded people like you haven't even a clue as to how insulting your ignorant assertions are to people who suffered under the Nazi regime and the Gestapo and the SS.

Just ridiculous .

Oh my goodness, YOU again???

January 15, 2026 03:43 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Lacey

And how do we know it's really all about political retribution? 

How??? Because the fat bastard said so himself!


https://www.minnpost.com/glean/2026/01/trump-promises-day-of-reckoning-and-retribution-to-minnesota-democrats-ice-lawsuit-somali-tps/