Posts Made By: Russ Carroll

January 17, 2026 01:10 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Judge Curbs ICE Actions Against Minneapolis Protesters

 https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/justice-department-investigating-minnesota-governor-and-minneapolis-mayor-b1f5f1b1?mod=hp_lead_pos3

"A federal judge imposed new limits Friday on how immigration-enforcement officials can interact with demonstrators in Minnesota, including blocking them from pepper-spraying or arresting peaceful protesters who aren’t obstructing their work.

Separately, the Justice Department is investigating whether Minnesota’s governor and the mayor of its largest city conspired to impede federal immigration officers, people familiar with the matter said.

The probe examines statements Gov. Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey made amid last week’s killing of a woman by an immigration agent, escalating a weekslong battle between the Trump administration and Minnesota’s Democratic leaders.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers were deployed en masse to Minnesota on the heels of a welfare-fraud scandal in which most of the people convicted have been Somali immigrants. ICE’s presence in the state has grown in size since protests erupted and the Department of Homeland Security has said it is the largest operation in the agency’s history.

Friday’s court order, issued by U.S. District Judge Katherine Menendez, stems from a lawsuit filed last month by a group of protesters accusing immigration-enforcement officers of violating their constitutional rights to freedom of speech and against unreasonable search and seizure by law enforcement.

Besides barring federal agents from detaining or using crowd-dispersal tools against peaceful protesters, including those that are observing the activities of immigration agents, the order blocks agents from stopping drivers unless they are interfering with immigration enforcement actions. It also blocks agents from retaliating against peaceful protesters and observers.


“Plaintiffs allege they have been subject to a variety of retaliatory behavior by Defendants, including traffic stops, arrests, the indiscriminate use of chemical irritants, and pointing of firearms,” said Menendez, a Biden appointee. “These kinds of conduct are those that undoubtedly give rise to an objective chill of First Amendment rights.”

Minnesota separately sued the Trump administration earlier this week, arguing that ICE’s operations violate the state’s residual sovereignty under the 10th Amendment. A judge has yet to rule on that lawsuit.


An ICE agent’s killing of 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis last week has further inflamed tensions, sparking widespread protests. Just hours after the shooting, Frey demanded that ICE “get the f— out” of the city. Walz has called the agents’ deployment “organized brutality against the people of Minnesota by our own federal government.”

The Justice Department didn’t respond to requests for comment. DHS spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin said the department “is taking appropriate and constitutional measures to uphold the rule of law and protect our officers.”

Walz’s office said he hadn’t received any notice of the Justice Department investigation, but the governor issued a statement pointing to recent federal investigations launched against political figures who have been critical of President Trump.

“Weaponizing the justice system and threatening political opponents is a dangerous, authoritarian tactic. The only person not being investigated for the shooting of Renee Good is the federal agent who shot her,” Walz said.


Frey, in a statement, called the investigation “an obvious attempt to intimidate me for standing up for Minneapolis, our local law enforcement, and our residents against the chaos and danger this administration has brought to our streets.”

Videos of the shooting, which took place on a residential street south of downtown Minneapolis, were shared widely on social media.

DHS said an agent fired in self-defense after Good attempted to run over officers, but state and city officials have disputed that version of events after seeing videos on social media that support witness accounts that Good was attempting to flee the scene rather than harm anyone.

January 20, 2026 12:15 AM Forum: Politics

January 25, 2026 03:33 PM Forum: Politics

ICE. Training for November???

Posted By Russ Carroll

Indefensible

If you want to stop comparisons to Nazi's, then don't look like them.

January 28, 2026 09:19 PM Forum: Politics

No words

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

Rod, this sentence proves how wrong you are about Jan 6 being an actual “insurrection”.  I fully agree that a military-type use of lethal force, i.e. shooting each and every combatant as they entered the capital, would be totally justified in the event of an actual insurrection.  On the contrary, Jan 6 was a riot, and different rules apply.  Virtually all of the Capital police showed appropriate restraint.  Good for them.

I suppose we’re just arguing about semantics now, but no sane person thinks the deluded Jan 6 rioters had any chance of overthrowing the government, or blocking the transfer of power to the Biden administration. If you want to water the word “insurrection“ down to mean something like a completely stupid politically motivated riot, have at it. But in that case, I think you forfeit the claim that lethal force is broadly justified ‘because an insurrection is occurring.’  Lethal force is of course justified in defense of the government from legit insurrectionist forces. In a riot, standard rules of police engagement apply.  Assuming you are correct, and the cop who shot Ashley Babbitt was in legitimate fear of his or other civilians safety, the shooting was justified. As I mentioned, I don’t buy that, but that is the official explanation, so I can live with it. I certainly don’t buy that any shooting was automatically justified because Jan 6 was an “insurrection.”

I'm not a lawyer, but isn't the fact that the riot was intended to prevent the legal transfer of power by Congress make it an insurrection? I'm actually not even sure why you are trying to make a distinction here.

January 29, 2026 10:48 AM Forum: Politics

No words

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

I’m not a lawyer either, not anymore. I’m a retired electrical engineer with a law degree. Also, you don’t enjoy nit-picky debate over semantic nuances like Rod and I do. Good for you. 😀

My definition of insurrection is not a legalistic definition. It is a practical definition. To me, an insurrection involves a coordinated and armed attempt to overthrow the government with at least some minimal chance of success. In my view, a government facing a legitimate insurrection has the right to engage in a military response.  By military response I mean that the government forces, typically the army,  can shoot to kill the entirety of the insurrectionist force in defense of the government.

Except for the proud boy type exceptions, I don’t think the average January 6 rioter was coordinated, armed, or even intended to over throw the government. These were deluded fools who bought into Trump‘s BS about the election being stolen. So they rioted.  Under the circumstances, I don’t think it would’ve been justified for the capital police to shoot them all as they crossed the threshold of the capital.  The semantic nuance they got me spun up, was that Rod used “insurrection” as a stand-alone reason for the capital cop to shoot Ashley Babbitt.   I don’t think “insurrection”  is a legit reason for that shooting. I agree with Rod that the shooting was justified if the cop thought his or other civilians lives were in danger, which is the normal standard for the use of deadly force in a riot situation.

I agree with your comment in bold.

I totally disagree that deadly force wasn't justified against attackers attempting to enter the house chamber. I see little if any difference between that and a mob trying to attack the President in the White House - Bring on the body bags in that situation as far as I am concerned.

January 30, 2026 03:24 PM Forum: Politics

No words

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown

p.s.   we all think that the cop who shot Good was not “being advanced on” because we have the benefit of several videos to view after the fact.   We ought to acknowledge however, that in the chaos of the moment, this shooting might have been seen to fit Dave’s criterial for a justified shooting:  1 advancing on the cop, and 2 refusing to stop when ordered to do so.

No matter what the resolution of this issue is, the fact that ICE was conducting these illegal sweeps, designed to escalate and wreak havoc on a community, is the entire reason this happened.
I repeat, it is America's version of a Gestapo intimidating citizens.

January 30, 2026 03:25 PM Forum: Politics

No words

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll


No matter what the resolution of this issue is, the fact that ICE was conducting these illegal sweeps, designed to escalate and wreak havoc on a community, is the entire reason this happened.
I repeat, it is America's version of a Gestapo intimidating citizens.

ps And yes, I am not accidentally or frivolously using the term Gestapo.

January 30, 2026 05:35 PM Forum: Politics

A reasonable choice?

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by James Brown
By an unreasonable man?

Kevin Warsh nominated as fed chair to replace Powell in May. The FT article I posted was paywalled.   😟

This is not the high emotion stuff of a police shooting, but it sure is important for the world economy.   There were plenty of Trump sycophants he could’ve chosen.    I’m sure the economic press will have lots of coverage, but will the average political news consumer even notice The Warsh nomination?

I just thank God he didn't pick Dave Ramsey or Suzie Orman....

February 9, 2026 08:12 PM Forum: Politics

The Worsening Trump Economy

Posted By Russ Carroll

The only thing we know with certainty is that Richard timed his trades perfectly.

February 17, 2026 07:51 PM Forum: Politics

Apertura, Askar, AstroTech, Celestron, DwarfLab, QHY, Skywatcher,Svbony, ZWO celebrate "one country, two systems"....

Posted By Russ Carroll

Originally Posted by william chiu
along with amerikan profiteers and consumers with silence.
https://youtu.be/QOuGG6fBggM?si=adN_bnCaRRtauVqa

Move along, nothing happened in 1989 too.

What didn't happen in 1989?