Posts Made By: James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Your statement above saying that it is "common" to have 20 to 30 embryos implanted and then terminating them, is beyond ludicrous.  

Alfredo never said "implanted."  When the sperm and eggs are mixed together in a petri dish, how many get fertilized?   I think that is what Alfredo was referencing, and it is a good question if humanity begins at fertilization.  

Jim

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

Thanks. I'm not qualified to discern her ability as a SC judge. A friend of mine, who is a moderate and a DA posted this, and it caught me a little by surprise that he would. He didn't share his opinion, which was a little confusing, so I don't think he fully endorsed this commentary, but it obviously troubled him.

Feel free to forward my thoughts to him.  He might think I'm full of it!  I'm curious.  My roommate from law school who is a hard-core progressive certainly would...  Good guy though.  

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Well actually Jim, what happens during in vitro is that eggs are harvested from the woman wishing to give birth.  The woman is given a stimulant so that her ovary will produce multiple rather than a single egg that normally occurs.  

Then follicle retrieval must occur.  Typically a number between 10 and 15 follicles is removed from the ovaries. 

Some will be empty and not contain a single egg, so therefore even fewer eggs are retrieved.

The average number of MATURE eggs that ARE retrieved is dimishing with age of the woman in question, but it is typically LESS than 8 total, and if the woman is above 40 years of age, it drops to about 5 MATURE eggs retrieved, so his number of destruction events is FAR less than 20 or 30 at a time.  

This number of 5 to 8 is the number of MATURE eggs RETRIEVED from the ovaries.

Then they have to be fertilized in the lab, and since only 60-80% of eggs retrieved are USEFUL MATURE eggs, that 5 to 8 number is even less because only about 3/4 of the MATURE eggs are successfully fertilized in a lab environment.  

I'll stick with my statement that the number 20-30 FERTILIZED EGGS destroyed per IVF event is ludicrous. 

If you care to discuss this further, I'm happy to do so.  

No worries, you know a lot more about this procedure than I do!

Jim

Originally Posted by James Brown

No worries, you know a lot more about this procedure than I do!

Jim

p.s.  I ought to cut to the chase.  I'm not sure when humanity begins, but I personally consider myself pro-life.  I would counsel a daughter against an abortion in favor of adoption, if I had a daughter in need.  

I also respect those people who see things differently and I respect women or couples who choose to terminate a pregnancy.  So I would consider myself to be pro-choice politically.  With limits of course.  A hard stop on abortions after the first trimester would be fine with me, except to save the life of the mother.  This is complicated, but I imagine a lot of 50-60 year old men feel as I do.  I don't think about these issues much.

But, if humanity begins at conception, and IVF sometimes involves a choice to terminate a fertilized egg, before or after implantation, then this is an issue.  According to my churches' doctrine, as I understand it, terminating after conception is the same as murder.  Yet I see IVF is a blessing of modern science.  I think it is a wonderful and beneficial thing. 

So, I am forced to admit that I do not agree with my Church, even though I tell myself I'm personally pro-life.  It does not matter whether one or many fertilized embryos are involved.   Alfredo has raised a compelling moral problem for those who would argue that humanity begins at conception.

Jim

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

I'm guessing Trump aides are ruing the day they stopped using the ABA to rate judges. I'm guessing she would get high marks from them.

???

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/amy-coney-barrett-is-rated-well-qualified-for-supreme-court-by-aba-standing-committee

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Keep looking the other way Jim, that's your prerogative, but until you show one ounce of consistency and start calling out the left for their "rudeness", your remarks to me are of very little meaning.  

Yes, I'll admit that I rarely call out others for their rudeness.  There are a couple of reasons that you have gotten most all of my attention.  Does anyone care?  I doubt it.  

Jim

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

P.S. Jim B referred to me as a racist recently, then denied it. 

He uses the tired worn out excuse that he was only calling my WORDS racist, yet any person with even half a brain understands that who but a racist would use racist language.

He Knows perfectly well what he does, and his lame excuse is in him saying " I never called YOU a racist, just all the stuff you said". 

Yeah sure, that's the fraud way out. 

He gives himself a pass because he thinks he's clever. 

Rich, I have never called you a racist.  I do think your Puerto Rico and Liberia comments in the context of our discussion were racist comments.  That said, I don't think you are a racist.  I think you made a poor choice of words without thinking them out very clearly.  

According to you, it is impossible for a non-racist to utter a poorly chosen racist comment.  I certainly disagree.

Jim

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Now only have we "rounded the corner" but "The White House’s science policy office on Tuesday ranked “ending the Covid-19 pandemic” atop the list of President Donald Trump’s top first-term accomplishments, even as the country registers record amounts of infections and hospitals fill up again."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/27/white-house-science-office-ending-pandemic-432827

Hi Rod:

Thanks for the good news.  I'm looking forward to ditching the mask!

Jim

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Think of it this way, had you not found it before you posted, you would have invariably reposted your regular fake news, claiming that the ABA wanted her disbarred.

Finding that one article just saved you from hours of humiliation explaining another false claim here!  Be happy.   

Rich, you really have to learn to pay attention if you are going to speculate and libel others.  

What Russ actually posted many hours before the bit quoted above was this:  "I'm guessing Trump aides are ruing the day they stopped using the ABA to rate judges. I'm guessing she would get high marks from them."  

Pretty much makes you look like a fool, doesn't it.

Jim

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

Man, it shows you how little I follow the judiciary. I could have sworn ticked off Republicans on the Judiciary Commitee tossed out using ABA ratings anymore because too may Trump nominations were getting "fake" not-qualified ratings from them. I must have dreamt that.

I bet you didn't dream it.  The Committee might have decided to deemphasize the ABA ratings, but the ABA being an independent professional association can certainly keep doing them.  I don't know though.

Jim