Posts Made By: James Brown

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

Too soon?

Spectacular!  You are on a roll Russ, this and the "HE CONCEDED" thread.  Brilliant.
Here is something to make you lose your lunch though:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524663-mulvaney-says-he-absolutely-expects-trump-to-run-again-in-2024-if-he-loses

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

This law will NEVER affect me as a business owner, but I think it is despicable that the increasingly totalitarian state has the ability to not only suggest that business owners fork over money for this, but that they mandate it through insurance premiums.  

Just curious - if you had your way, would your roll back the Colorado Worker's Comp insurance requirements?  Would you roll back Medicare and Medicaid?  Would you roll back the FICA taxes that fund Social Security?  

I suppose Ayn Rand would do this - she would say that anyone who does not plan for an on-job injury, health insurance if they are old or disabled, or who does not plan for their own retirement has only him or herself to blame.  

I get it, I am a fan of that line of thinking, within reason.  But I would never even consider rolling back Worker's Comp., Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security - even though those programs are funded by government mandated payroll taxes split between the employee and the employer of course. 

As a conservative, I want to resist expanding these programs too much, which is why I voted against 118.  But as a human being, I understand the human sufferings that would be caused if we took this line of thinking to the logical "Ayn Rand" conclusion and disbanded the Workers Comp, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security programs to eliminate those confiscatory taxes.  We lost on ballot measure 118 and we have one more program to pay for.   I don't think that is a great idea, for the same reasons you don't.  But I see the benefit to the workforce, so I'm not nearly as upset about it as you are.

Jim

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I think that Trump is ahead at this moment in Penn.  The live update I linked to, indicates that Trump is currently up by 108,000 in PA.  

Not positive if that is correct but I believe it is.  

That is correct.

PA is going to be very close.  Check my math here, but there are about 340,000 mail-in votes left to count.  

Assuming that the 108,000 vote Trump lead and the 340,000 votes left to count totals are accurate, Biden needs to win about 67% of those remaining 340,000 votes to overtake Trump.  (at a 67/33 split those 340,000 votes would go 227,800 to Biden and 112,200 to Trump.   227,800 - 112,200 = 115,600, which equals a tiny Biden lead.)

The Ds in PA overwhelmingly voted mail in.  Also, most of those remaining votes are supposed to be from blue counties.  So far, the mail-in vote has been a whopping 78% in favor of Biden, at least as of this morning.  All according to 538 - so feel free to dispute.  But if they are right, and the Biden win rate on the uncounted ballots holds up to somewhere between 67-78%, then he'll win by several thousand votes.

But, as they are all saying (except for DJT)  'that's why we count the votes.'

Jim

Originally Posted by James Brown

That is correct.

PA is going to be very close.  Check my math here, but there are about 340,000 mail-in votes left to count.  

Assuming that the 108,000 vote Trump lead and the 340,000 votes left to count totals are accurate, Biden needs to win about 67% of those remaining 340,000 votes to overtake Trump.  (at a 67/33 split those 340,000 votes would go 227,800 to Biden and 112,200 to Trump.   227,800 - 112,200 = 115,600, which equals a tiny Biden lead.)

The Ds in PA overwhelmingly voted mail in.  Also, most of those remaining votes are supposed to be from blue counties.  So far, the mail-in vote has been a whopping 78% in favor of Biden, at least as of this morning.  All according to 538 - so feel free to dispute.  But if they are right, and the Biden win rate on the uncounted ballots holds up to somewhere between 67-78%, then he'll win by several thousand votes.

But, as they are all saying (except for DJT)  'that's why we count the votes.'

Jim

I just verified that there are 340,375 mail in votes left to count.  https://www.votespa.com/About-Elections/Pages/Counting-Dashboard.aspx

 

Originally Posted by James Brown

That is correct.

PA is going to be very close.  Check my math here, but there are about 340,000 mail-in votes left to count.  

Assuming that the 108,000 vote Trump lead and the 340,000 votes left to count totals are accurate, Biden needs to win about 67% of those remaining 340,000 votes to overtake Trump.  (at a 67/33 split those 340,000 votes would go 227,800 to Biden and 112,200 to Trump.   227,800 - 112,200 = 115,600, which equals a tiny Biden lead.)

The Ds in PA overwhelmingly voted mail in.  Also, most of those remaining votes are supposed to be from blue counties.  So far, the mail-in vote has been a whopping 78% in favor of Biden, at least as of this morning.  All according to 538 - so feel free to dispute.  But if they are right, and the Biden win rate on the uncounted ballots holds up to somewhere between 67-78%, then he'll win by several thousand votes.

But, as they are all saying (except for DJT)  'that's why we count the votes.'

Jim

This chart is why I think Biden wins PA, unless he loses.  Also, 99.92% of the election day votes have already been counted, which is where Trump built up his lead.


https://www.votespa.com/About-Elections/Pages/Counting-Dashboard.aspx

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

Holy crap. Biden may win Georgia!

I think it is likely.  Trump is currently up by only 3500 votes with 19000 votes left to count.  Once again the mail in votes are being counted last.  The GA mail in votes favor Biden by I think 60/40.  

Is this Trump's insistence that mail in voting equals fraud coming home to roost?  In other words, what if there were 10,000 or so GA voters who would have voted Trump, but couldn't make it to the polls for one reason or another and also did not vote by mail because Trump told them not to?

Jim


Correction - according to the Secretary of State, there are 36k ballots outstanding.

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

Holy crap. Biden may win Georgia!

Or maybe not, it is so close.  From WSB TV in Atlanta:

"Trump still led Biden in Georgia by a slim margin of just 3,486 votes as of 7:30 p.m. Thursday. As of 5:45 p.m., there were around 36,000 uncounted ballots remaining. The total does not include provisional ballots, military and overseas ballots and ballots that are cured."

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/live-updates-eyes-georgia-state-works-finish-counting-outstanding-ballots/K2PXD7SI3VCDPGNUPMRAV7K5UU/

I wonder how many military ballots are waiting to be counted in GA?  I wonder how much they will favor Trump?

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Well the Trump team has a response: "Trump surrogate on election legal challenges: 'Hopefully Amy Coney Barrett will come through"...
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524727-trump-surrogate-on-election-legal-challenges-hopefully-amy-coney-barrett

That is a thin hope.  If anyone thinks ACB is some sort of partisan hack, they are in for a rude awakening.  

I bet the Supremes will not need to get involved.   When Biden wins GA and PA it is going to be tough to argue that any alleged poll watching irregularities cost Trump the election.

By the way, every word out of Trump's lips makes me gladder and gladder that I did not vote for him.  I mentioned that the election night/next morning speech was the worst and least gracious speech of all time...  I should have said, "so far...."

Jim

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

You stated this:  

If you had your way, would your roll back the Colorado Worker's Comp insurance requirements?  Would you roll back Medicare and Medicaid?  Would you roll back the FICA taxes that fund Social Security? 

Let's just start with your above statement/question.

My simple answer is NO.  Now I answered your questions so then please answer my questions.  

When did I say that?  When did I even imply that?

Please indicate where I said or implied any of the above. 

Then I'll posit a question to you. 

Should Businesses in this nation be forced to pay for the daily child care costs of their workers who have children between the ages of 3 months and 6 years?

If so, why?  If not, why not?  

Please answer that question as well, then we can move on in the discussion.

Goodness Richard, I did not mean to imply that you said any of that.  I was posing a hypothetical question.  Like this: "If you had your way, would you... would you..."   I think my language was reasonably clear, but apparently not.

Like I said earlier, I voted against 118 and I think it is a bad policy.  My hypothetical was meant to flesh out that we both, even though we are reasonably conservative, apparently believe that some government taxes on business designed to fund social programs for the good of the people are OK.  Other taxes are over the line.  The difference between conservatives and liberals is where we draw the line.

Jim

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Yes, and what about it?  You stated "Goodness Richard", implying that my response was utterly defensive. 

It wasn't.  Why do you think it was, since you're making that implication?

I simply responded and asked you a few questions back.  

I thought your language was clear and I didn't provide you any reason to think otherwise. 

I answered the question NO, and then posited some questions back.  

I will ask my questions again of you.

Should Businesses in this nation be forced to pay for the daily child care costs of their workers who have children between the ages of 3 months and 6 years?

If so, why?  If not, why not?

You can take those as rhetorical questions or you can choose to answer them.

Thanks!  

I've got a lasagna in the oven, so this is it - but your defensive part was this:


"When did I say that?  When did I even imply that?

Please indicate where I said or implied any of the above."


Seemed defensive to me.  Sorry if I was wrong.  Like I said, I voted against 118.  I think businesses should give reasonable vacation and sick leave.  I think families should be able to take time off for family if necessary, but on terms agreeable to the business and the employee.  I don't like laws like 118 because one size does not fit all situations.  

I'm drooling on myself the lasagna smells so good.  Bye!

Jim