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January 8, 2021 12:01 AM Forum: Politics

Okay, now the Capital is under siege.

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


Do you condone or condemn the Boston Tea Party? 

I cant say I am particularly found of the idea that some of the right fringe decided to break some windows and run amok.....But it pales in the face of the violence and destruction from the left fringe over the last couple years......
Greg, I'm speechless - almost.  What does your bringing up the Boston Tea Party mean?  Are you saying that these right-wing morons, inspired by Trump, have such legitimate grievances against the United States that it justifies a revolutionary war?   That is one way of interpreting the Tea Party analogy.   Please tell me I'm wrong.

Jim

January 8, 2021 12:03 AM Forum: Politics

Watching the Senate proceedings

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
Seems like the Republicans are trying to salvage something out of this debacle. 
That's going to be tough to do.

January 8, 2021 11:43 PM Forum: Politics

WSJ Calls for trump's head

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll



Apparently, an impeached President isn't eligible to run again, which I didn't know, so that would put a wooden stake through trumpula's heart. Removing him in disgrace is appropriate, but more than that, getting the nuclear trigger out of his hand is a moral imperative. 
I didn't know that.  I would not be opposed to impeachment and removal as an act of self-preservation by the R's.  I seriously doubt that it could be completed by the 20th though.  

Jim

p.s. Russ is a careful reader and will be appalled that I am not worried about Trump having the nuke codes, since I phrased this as "self preservation by the Rs."  I am not worried about Trump launching the nukes though.  Doesn't Trump have to get a general or someone to co-execute a launch with him?  Also, I don't think he is any more of a threat to start a war than he was on day 1.  I sure will be glad to see him go.

JIm  

January 8, 2021 11:56 PM Forum: Politics

Epic TakeDown Of GOP Enablers

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

Darian - do you take Limbaugh seriously?

In another thread you stated "I suspect that there was a great deal of leftist agitation involved in the situation" regarding the events in DC the other day. Is Limbaugh where you got that from? I ask because that's some of what he is claiming.
Hi Brian:

I never listen to Limbaugh any more, since I am working from home and am never in the car when he is on local radio.  Over the past decades, back when I used to visit clients and so on, I would listen to him if I was in the car during his time slot.  A couple of times a year at best.  I always thought he was pretty entertaining - I could never tell just how much of his outrage was real or an act.  And he always seemed to me to have a core of humor that is gone from his successors in the fringe media.  

I hear that he is dying of lung cancer.  That is too bad, but more than a little ironic.

Jim

January 8, 2021 11:57 PM Forum: Politics

The "Evidence" Of Antifa "Infiltrating" Capitol Hill "Protests"

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Patrick Keafer
Here is an "Antifa" member at Pelosi's desk.
Doesn't that dude look just like Brett Favre?  shocked

January 9, 2021 12:05 AM Forum: Politics

The Brits Respond!

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Lacey


Elaine Chao, Mitch McConnel's wife and the secretary of transportation has resigned. Reporting is there are more coming. If that happens, it's just a matter of time before all confidence in Trump is lost, and he has no choice but to resign.
Hi James:

I wish he had no choice but to resign, but he won't.  It is only 12 days until Biden is sworn in right?  We can limp along until then.   I expect the thousands of employees in the hundreds of agencies nominally overseen by the executive branch are just showing up and doing their jobs.  Those are more important people than Trump at this point.

Jim

January 9, 2021 12:31 AM Forum: Politics

Okay, now the Capital is under siege.

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


The fact that you dont get the comparison speaks loudly Jim......

Lets forget all the hard to prove stuff like rigged machines, fake ballots, etc .....and just talk about ignoring election laws and or changing them to suit your party without going through the legal process to do so. It is a undisputable fact that several states violated their own election laws. That in itself is enough to invalidate the election regardless of who the candidates were or which party it benefitted. In truth even if it was only ONE state......

I already stated I was not particularly happy that some on the fringe right broke some windows and generally ran amok in the nations capitol of course some were plants from antifa as well as has been revealed.....of course some will seize on another statement I said in jest that if I had been there I might have broke some windows too.

The bottom line is our election process failed big time in light of the above and did so with partisan participation and support.
I "don't get the comparison," because for me the Boston Tea Party is a strong and compelling symbol for the fully justified armed overthrow of a corrupt government.

For me, the Boston Tea Party symbolizes exactly the following:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

I personally do not think that any alleged election irregularities, rogue courts, or anything that happened in the 2020 election time frame rises to any sort of Boston Tea Party triggering level of event.  It is not a close call.  It is not, in my opinion, even a reasonable point of view.

I think that anyone who believes that election fraud or irregularities denied Trump his win has been duped by Trump, or perhaps is in some sort of self-denial.  Trump was arguing fraud and stolen election long before the election even occurred, as we debated here, probably too much. 

Those who breached the capital consider themselves to be patriots.  The genuine Boston Tea Party was surely on their minds.  I consider them to be criminals and terrorists.  

Jim    

January 9, 2021 12:39 AM Forum: Politics

Okay, now the Capital is under siege.

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


Bull shit....the bulk of those cases were never heard but denied up front.....and again you use the word allegations, it is fact and a matter of record you idiot!
Greg, cases are denied up front only when the plaintiff fails to even articulate a cause of action.  If I sue you for breach of contract but I fail or refuse to tell the court we had a contract in the first place, my case gets denied up front.  In the election cases there are only two possibilities:

1.  The plaintiffs in all of these "denied up front" cases failed to even tell the court in their complaints that they had evidence of election fraud because they had no evidence of election fraud, or

2.  The lawyers for all of these cases are hopelessly, unimaginably  incompetent.

January 9, 2021 04:18 AM Forum: Politics

WSJ Calls for trump's head

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

My God, the one lawyer here can't even read the Constitution and understand that via Article 1 section 3, the judgment would have had to be made to disallow him the opportunity to run for office again by the Senate.  

Its sad that a cabinetmaker here has to school a lawyer with a JD after his name on the basics of the United States Constitution and the Impeachment clause.  

I guess you don't get Article 1, Section 3.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

Just for the lawyer's education here, Trump was impeached, i.e. CHARGED, but not removed from office by 2/3 vote, nor was there a 2/3 vote to render any of the OTHER punishments in force.  Pretty pathetic that a lowly cabinetmaker has to school a person with a JD after his name on the impeachment clause of the US Constitution.    blushunsure

More education.  The SENATE holds the sole power to TRY the person charged with the crimes.  He went through that process in the Senate and wasn't convicted by 2/3 of the members of the Senate, therefore he wasn't removed, he wasn't disqualified to hold office. 

Hope you get that, now I've informed you.  wink

P.S. If you need any other corrections to your knowledge of the US Constitution, send me a PM and I'll see if I can steer you in the right direction, OK?  grin


  
Of course, that's why I said "impeachment and removal" in my reply.  It was a conversational way of saying that Trump would be impeached by the House and removed after trial by the Senate.  I assume everyone here but you understood.  The more pedantic and lengthy expositions you seem to require are quite boring.

Jim

January 9, 2021 01:41 PM Forum: Politics

Epic TakeDown Of GOP Enablers

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis


Just ask Russ Carroll, Jim Brown, Rod Kaufman, Jim Moscheck
Thank Goodness,  after the last few days , I am still grouped with the good guys, the patriots, the Americans, my brothers... no matter how I might have voted in the past.  Jim