Posts Made By: Greg Shaffer

That would make him as full of shit as a Christmas turkey then..... I frequent a half dozen bars regularly and am at at least 2 of those once a week..... I shoot my fair share of pool and play in tournaments regularly. While that may indeed be where I originally caught it many months ago I would think I would have caught the omicron flavor by now if that were true. Or perhaps as I proposed a long time ago my natural immunity as a result of catching it early on is still holding out

Some interesting stats from Cheyenne Wyoming Regional Medical Center.....Seems like they support Richards side of this argument lol

It seems the vaccinated are not fairing nearly as well as the unvaccinated in Wyoming.....I suspect that may be true everywhere else as well.....

LOL.....Lord forbid that Rich might be right....got all yall studdering LOL

Those stats are from the hospital website. I realize they only represent one snap shot but still...............

I didnt present ANYTHING as the whole story.....it is what it is, but it does present a snag in the "sky is falling" theory yall seem to promote

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

Who cares what he thinks?  I wonder why you took one snapshot from an entire roll of film, ignored the rest, and created a whole conclusion from it. There's no snag - just misrepresentation on your part.

Furthermore, what "sky is falling" theory is it that you think people are promoting here? Which people?

What who thinks? Rich? I simply posted a screen shot from the website.....its not misrepresented as anything other than what it is, a snap shot of the state of that hospital on the 7th where covid is concerned. You seem like you feel threatened by it lol I guess since it seems to support what he claims, that put a burr under your saddle?

You really need everything explained to you?

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

Oh please - you cherry-picked their data to make this point, and I quote: "It seems the vaccinated are not fairing nearly as well as the unvaccinated in Wyoming.....I suspect that may be true everywhere else as well.....".

Why not use their data in its entirety to make that point? Because it doesn't work.  So instead you misrepresent it. Classic misinformation.

You really need everything explained to you?

You sure your name isnt Rod? You sure sound like him lol

Repeating back what others say is the best you can do? I dont get how a snap shot of some current stats threatens you so.....They are what they are regardless of whether they represent the larger picture or not. 

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Yes, they are what they are, but you also said that the data suggested Rich was right when in reality, cherry-picked data from a single region on a single day proves very little.

Leaving aside the fact that Rich has been wrong about many things over the last two years in this pandemic, there is no doubt that vaccinated people are less likely to get sick and much less likely to have severe illness or be hospitalized.

Texas has done many things wrong in this pandemic, but one thing they do right is gathering lots of quality data and make it available to the public. Keep in mind that Texas is a red-state, and our governor has sued the federal government over mandates, so if they had a plan to doctor the data, it would be to make it look better. Yet it shows that vaccinated people fare far better than unvaccinated.

I believe I said "seems" to support Rich......That and we tend to disagree on how often Rich is wrong, depends on who you ask, to me its a LOT more often than most in here are willing to admit

Its been fun watching yall rise to the bait though lol

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

No. The "bait" is the fact that you misrepresented the data from the Cheyenne Wyoming Regional Medical Center to make this false claim (which the data in its entirety does not support): "It seems the vaccinated are not fairing nearly as well as the unvaccinated in Wyoming.....I suspect that may be true everywhere else as well.....".

You went through some effort to extract that one graphic from the whole story, just to create a false conclusion. Why? It's misrepresentation and misinformation. In other words, dishonest. That's the bait.

Why is that so hard to understand, and what the hell does Rich have to do with it?

1. I have NO clue what "whole story" you are referring to..... You have mentioned it a couple times but I have not opened any "story" with that graphic in it

2. It was no effort at all to save the graphic and then upload it here, less than 30 seconds lol

3. Misinformation? How so? Do you dispute the data it shows? If you do then you problem is not with me but rather the hospital that provided it LOL

4. You are STILL rising to the bait lol

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

1,2, and 3: Did you not look at the link I provided? Is that not where you copied your graphic from, or did you find that single graphic on some other website?

4. If responding to discussion topics on a discussion forum is "rising to the bait" in your mind, then I suppose everyone here is guilty, including you. Strange perspective on your part.

No, I did not.....I, in fact rarely open links posted here and only rarely post links here. Yes, it came from elsewhere, the data in fact came from the hospital website. 

I put up the post and you guys instantly went ballistic with all kinds of accusations directed at both it and myself, so yes, deny all you like, you "rose to the bait"

Given how much you have responded, accused, bloviated to it I would say you gobbled up the whole shebang, hook, line and sinker lol

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

The link I provided was the original posted data from the Cheyenne Wyoming Regional Medical Center, which is where your single graphic came from. Why would you selectively choose a single graphic from their entire data set to claim something that isn't true? What is the point? Unless it's a genuine mistake as a result of you not reading the data they provided.

So by calling you out on something that is obviously false, we "rose to the bait"? Are you now claiming you knew it was BS all along? You do realize that "bait" is an obvious falsehood posted by a troll to elicit a response, right?

I dont know if it came from the link you posted or not.....if you say it did then perhaps you are right. All I can tell you is I didnt get it from that link, which I still have not viewed lol

I selected it because it was a snap shot of the status in THAT hospital on THAT date. It really isnt complicated. I thought it was amusing that it reflected something Rich had been proposing and I pointed that out. You keep calling it a falsehood or BS.....No it is NOT. It *IS* the data from that hospital on that given date, the 7th I think.....

I have asked you before with no response, DO YOU DISPUTE IT or not? If you dont, how is it false or BS?....

In keeping with the "bait" theme I proposed that perhaps similar figures can be found elsewhere as well....

Yes, you have been trolled if you are looking for confirmation....LOL, others certainly took the bait, you on the other hand as pointed out already, took the bait, the hook, the line and the sinker. Get over it, you guys bait Rich all the time....and get all incredulous and snippy when he rises to it. Were it not for baiting this forum would be a whole lot deader than it is lol 

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

The real question is, does anyone honestly believe that unvaccinated people fare better than vaccinated people when it comes to Covid?

I suppose so if you developed your critical thinking skills by watching Duck Dynasty or Hee Haw. LOL

They certainly were at THAT hospital on THAT date....a fact that seems to stick in your craw there Brian lol

Never seen DD, but I do know what BR549 is