Posts Made By: James Brown

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

One of the many odd things about him. I laugh at the obsession he has with his passive/aggressive use of emoticons. Like that little winky face after a deplorable comment or put down makes it okay?

As far as JB goes, he IS the chosen one. Right? 

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I did call him The ONE many moons ago.  

As far as why I challenge him, is that I consider him pretty much a RINO on many, many political issues, however he is on a scale of intellect, miles above the 3 of you.

If Lacey's, Yours, and the dimwit McFarland's (who is chiming in like a trained monkey here in this thread) IQs, were totaled up numerically, your collective IQs would still be less than a single Average IQ.  

Brown?  He's pretty smart.  He can't possibly agree w/ you 3 stooges on everything, so I'm assuming he might consider responding to counter the insanity and the spin coming from Lacey here, but I could be wrong!  

There is a chance that he might just blame Trump as well for these ridiculous cash payouts.  

I appreciate the compliment Rich, but seriously....  Brian, Jim M. and James are all really smart cookies.  Why lay down the unnecessary insults? It can't be to foster conversation.  

As far as the merits go, no cash payments have been made as far as I know.  Lawsuits have been threatened or maybe filed.  If the Plaintiffs win in court, they'll get monetary damages of some sort.  If the government decides that it is better off settling before trial, that is what they will do.  This is all very typical civil litigation stuff.  Probably, no one will notice when these cases actually do settle or go to trial, but I bet the outcome is a lot more pedestrian than the articles you have read are predicting.

Jim

Originally Posted by James Brown

I appreciate the compliment Rich, but seriously....  Brian, Jim M. and James are all really smart cookies.  Why lay down the unnecessary insults? It can't be to foster conversation.  

As far as the merits go, no cash payments have been made as far as I know.  Lawsuits have been threatened or maybe filed.  If the Plaintiffs win in court, they'll get monetary damages of some sort.  If the government decides that it is better off settling before trial, that is what they will do.  This is all very typical civil litigation stuff.  Probably, no one will notice when these cases actually do settle or go to trial, but I bet the outcome is a lot more pedestrian than the articles you have read are predicting.

Jim

p.s. In Colorado we don't have ad damnum clauses in civil complaints.  Other states do.  An ad damnum clause is where the plaintiff makes a typically enormous demand for damages in the complaint.  For example, James might sue you for libel some day and demand a billion dollars in damages.  Not likely that he would get that though is it?  One thing is certain though, the press always picks up the ad damnum clause, and publishes the wildly inflated figure for shock value when they report on a case like this.

Jim

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Not sure you are up to speed on this one Jim......as I understand it the proposed $$ figures have nothing to do with lawsuits. From what I have seen Lets Go Brandon and his administration proposed $450,000 per family member be paid out to families who were separated by US Law.....which should average a million or more per family or perhaps I have not looked deep enough and that is what they proposed as a settlement offer? Either way it is by far the stupidest idea I have seen come out of this administration so far......

You got that right, I'm totally not up to speed.   If I can make the time, I'll read up on this in the next few days.  J

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Is Biden perfect? Hardly. Do I expect him to be perfect? Nope. Do I feel the need to defend with cult-like fanaticism every aspect of his administration? Not. But Biden did not create this problem. Instead, his administration did their level best to try and remedy the mess Trump and his team of idiots left behind, but they "screwed the pooch" so severely that we still can't reunite over 1,700 children with their parents. Honestly, this story is about Tucker Carlson and the right-wing fever swamp needing their daily dose of outrage. What the original claim is asking for is astronomical, and common sense tells you that most families will not receive anywhere near that amount.

Good post James.  I agree with most everything in it, especially the last sentence.  I'm surprised you can pull it off with your single digit IQ...    Jim

p.s.  The only thing I am not sure I agree with is that Trump's team of idiots "created" the mess.  Exacerbated it maybe?  Were family separations unheard of under previous administrations?  The illegal immigration problem is a real problem.  Bureaucrats and law enforcement have been tackling it forever, with more or less fanfare, depending on the administration.  Sometimes grievous mistakes are made, sometimes policies suck.    Remember those kids in cages?  Where were their parents?  Such is the nature of a bureaucracy. 

I'm not defending Trump here in particular.  I am merely observing that the problem on the border is extremely difficult on our border agents, and does not lend itself to tidy and easy solutions, no matter who is president.

Jim

538 has the R Youngkin up by a point in Virginia.  That is pretty shocking, considering Biden carried VA by 10.  If Youngkin wins, que the D panic.  

My wife dropped my 4 page mail-out ballot in a secure drop box yesterday.  At least I think she did!  Fraud and all that...  Just sayin...  We had lots of spending bills to wade through and one school board seat.  That was it for 4 pages!

Jim

Originally Posted by James Lacey

The CDC posted new data on vaccinated versus unvaccinated rates of death. It doesn't address whether or not natural immunity is better than vaccination (it's not), but it's telling data nonetheless.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

It can show you cases or deaths and it's all adjusted to incidence per 100,000 population, so you are comparing apples-to-apples as you switch views. You can show age groups and by vaccine products. It's beyond obvious the vaccines work, and they work very well.

Hi James:

Interesting site.  The graph with the "death" outcome box checked is even more compelling.  That said, the unvaccinated case and death curves are trending down, so enough unvaccinated folks must be acquiring natural immunity to make a difference.  Talk about doing it the hard way!   

Originally Posted by James Lacey

The WSJ article used to fuel the outrage says explicitly that the current situation is where the ACLU and other advocacy groups are suing the government for damages due to family separation under the Trump administration's zero-tolerance policy. This fact doesn't seem to be up to much debate to me.

Before Trump's zero-tolerance policy that made crossing the border illegally an act worthy of federal prosecution, some separations occurred when they were warranted. But nothing on the scale of Trump's zero-tolerance policy.

Regardless, you are correct. Illegal immigration and the border are challenging problems.

Hi James:

I think I understand your point - the ACLU is targeting Trump's actions, not Obama's or Bush's or anyone else.  To that extent, the Trump administration did "cause" the lawsuits.  But please remember that the ACLU is political to the core and they are the ones who choose the timing and target of any suit.

This is where it gets weird.  If Trump had won the election, he would presumably defend these suits vigorously.  Maybe he would win them?  I have no idea of course, it is going to be very fact sensitive and will probably depend on whether the applicable policies were followed and whether the policies are deemed reasonable.  I am pretty sure that policies that are implemented in the ordinary course of the business of the government are presumed reasonable, so the plaintiffs might have a tough time winning anything.

But Trump did not win the election.  Biden's people might be willing to settle these cases rather than try them.  I am cynical enough to think this would be a move motivated nearly entirely by politics and optics.  Biden will need to run against the memory of Trump in '22 and '24, if not running against the real thing.  Given the government's option to settle these cases, and in view of the political hay to be made, we may never know whether the suits have any legal merit.

Please note that I am not in favor of family separations, and it is a terrible thing if families can not be reunited.  I'm merely pointing out, in this and my previous post, that the border is messy, and I am not sure that these are open-and-shut wins for the ACLU if the cases were vigorously defended.

Jim

Originally Posted by James Lacey

I don't think the cases are open and shut for the ACLU at all. My only point is they would not even be happening except for the egregious abuse of separation as a deterrent and the extraordinary number that occurred. In any case, I think we can agree that the right-wing outrage machine misrepresented and overblew what was happening here.

Yes.

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

I think the two Jims may be taking the ease of mail-in ballots for granted...
AP News: "Among the most consistent targets of Republican lawmakers this year have been mail ballots and early in-person voting, after many states expanded those options to make voting safer during the coronavirus outbreak." In Texas, for example, "The legislation also makes it a felony for a local election official to send unsolicited mail ballot applications and bans the use of drop boxes for mail ballots."
Geez...
https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-voting-rights-election-2020-2caf9b85bec73c807ecea15775f6da63

Banning drop boxes is really stupid.  In Colorado, the ballot has to be received by close of business on election day.  This is great in my opinion, because there is no waiting a week for ballots post marked on election day to trickle in.  But, if you are going to use the mail, you have to get it done early.  So, drop boxes are used by the majority, including me, who do not get the ballot filled out in time to trust the mail.