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January 20, 2022 05:29 AM Forum: Politics

Wow....

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

What laws that the Republicans are passing involve favoring their net turnout and How do these manifest themselves.

I see not one bit of evidence that indicates that.  

Seems like a strange accusation.
I'm a big fan of mail-out/mail-in/drop-off voting as we have implemented it in CO for years.  I wrote extensively about this in October and November of 2021. 

Passing laws that minimize or limit mail-in/drop-off voting (or opposing the opposite laws) would seem to favor R net turnout.   (I am not so sure about that, but this is the conventional wisdom.) 

Both sides can make seemingly legit arguments:  (R) The risk of fraud is there, if the program is not properly regulated and implemented, and (D) turnout is expanded, and folks who would not otherwise vote will in fact vote under a mail-out/mail-in/drop-off voting system.  While those arguments are defensible, I think the motivation behind each parties legislative attempts in this example are a "typical" attempt to enhance their parties' net turnout.  Hardball politics.  I don't think any one side here is engaged in "voter suppression."

Jim

January 20, 2022 05:34 AM Forum: Politics

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Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


He (Trump) never fell below 37 on it......Thanks for your opinion but I do consider it a fairly consistent bellwether which is why I follow it. 
Hi Greg:

I posted some links above that say Trump was at 34% and 33% in various Q polls.  I am unable to verify the links by looking at actual Q polls though.  If you have access to a link to actual Q polls during the Trump years, I'd be willing to take a look.  I'm just curious.  I'm similarly curious as to how low Joe can go.  As I mentioned, 33% has to be pretty near the floor.  Biden could rob a bank on national TV and not lose the support of his 33% die-hard base.  Same as any president, I think.

January 20, 2022 05:38 AM Forum: Politics

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Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

The difference though BETWEEN the Democrat party and the Republican party is that the Republican party IS calling for Voter ID at the voting booth to try and SECURE the election as proper, and the Democrat party is doing the exact opposite, and the evidence is that they are against voter ID, because they would prefer a vote that isn't PROPER.  

I favor voter ID laws.  I personally am not so sure that any ID based fraud is overwhelmingly D.  You certainly have never presented any evidence that the Ds oppose voter ID "because they would prefer a vote that isn't PROPER."  I have also not seen any evidence that Democratic ID fraud is rampant.  Trump's supporter's lawsuits making these allegations all got tossed for failure to even allege (much less prove) any D voter fraud. 

Jim

January 20, 2022 05:52 AM Forum: Politics

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Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

When did I call James a loser?

I didn't, and if you're implying that I did, then you're lying about that.  wink

He did call me some names when he got irritated.  
You're confused.  I called James a loser while mimicking your style.   Mimicking, not slavishly copying...  It is a humor thing, you will not understand.  

January 20, 2022 05:56 AM Forum: Politics

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Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I'm not at all a fan. Being a citizen of the USA requires SOME ambition on the part of the American people to get to the POLLS on the day of the election.

I'm not a fan of making the election a year long event. 

And you say that this IS the conventional wisdom?

Perhaps among fraudulent Democrats?

I don't know one Republican who thinks opposing all of this Mail in voting is UNreasonable.

All that mailing out ballots Willy Nilly does, is INVITE fraud.  In California they mail ballots to everyone.  

This means that tens of thousands of Ballots ARE mailed to dead people since Democrats don't want to PURGE their voter rolls of DEAD Americans.

Do you deny that simple fact I just stated?

In fact they,, the Democrats are actively engaging in attempts to NOT have to purge their voter rolls.  

https://www.courthousenews.com/wisconsin-supreme-court-upholds-stop-to-voter-roll-purges/

Apparently in your mind, it isn't the responsibility of the citizen to put forth any effort whatsoever to get to the polls on time.

Hell, Democrats were angry and suing to EXTEND the voting time to MONTHS on end. 

Is that reasonable to you?  

They claimed it was VOTER SUPPRESSION by Repubs, when Repubs wanted to limit the time of voting.

Does the Constitution play any role in your mindset on the DATE of the vote, or should we just allow people to vote anytime they choose? 

Why not then, just allow people to begin voting on Jan 1, the year of the election and let them vote for the next 10 months until the election in November?

Can you tell me why that would be no good, or do you like that idea?  

The specific DATE specified in the United States Constitution means NOTHING??  

In my opinion, you're beyond naive If you don't recognize which Political party is attempting to make voting LESS secure and LESS accurate.  
You know at least one.  I like mail-out/mail-in/drop off voting as implemented in CO.  We have specific dates, signature cross checks.  ID requirements and so on.  I skimmed your post and you seem to be arguing against some wildly exaggerated free-for-all bogeyman of mail in voting that no one has and that I would not support.

Jim

January 20, 2022 07:10 AM Forum: Politics

Wow....

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


I simply dont recall Q reporting him below 37......that doesnt mean it didnt happen. As for Bidens current 33% on Q probably being a floor.....not true, there have been 1 or 2 presidents in the mid twenties before.

Not Q specific polls (appears to be Gallop polls)

Bush - 25%
Truman - 22%
Nixson - 25%
Bush Sr - 29%
Carter - 28%
Trump - 37% (as I thought)

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/presidents-with-the-lowest-approval-ratings.html
Wow, Truman got to 22%?  Gallup say this because of  an economic slowdown, a prolonged military engagement in the Korean War, labor strife and federal government corruption.  https://news.gallup.com/poll/272765/lowest-gallup-presidential-job-approval-rating.aspx  I had no idea.  

We'll see if Joe can "top" the lowest Democrat in my lifetime - Carter at 28%.  I sure hope not, because the Carter economy was worse than what we have today.

January 20, 2022 07:12 AM Forum: Politics

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Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

No, my guess is that you read it.  It wasn't that long and drawn out, and when I write, I space out the sentences to make points easier.

Because I don't cram everything into one single spaced paragraph, certainly doesn't indicate that it was so terribly time consuming for you to read.  

And you stated this:   You know at least one.

I was speaking about my friends and acquaintances whom I hang out with and whose opinions I respect as reasonable.  

I'll simply state this again about you.   If you can't make the logical connection as to which party is attempting to muddy up the election, and which party is encouraging fraud, then there IS no appealing to the logical side of your intellect, Period.

As such, all I'm doing in wasting my time here going back and forth with you is precisely that, wasting my time.  winktongue

Enjoy your day!  smile
You do like the convenience, efficiency, and integrity of Colorado's system though, don't you?  Jim 

January 20, 2022 07:29 AM Forum: Politics

Wow....

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I go to turn my ballot in on election day, as I always have, so I don't need to mail it in.  

I have no use for mail in ballots, so no, that doesn't matter to me.

It simply invites mail borne fraud. 

I would In fact PREFER that we went back to regular Marked ballots with the pencil. 

Is there any other incorrect assumptions you have about my thoughts on voting that I can correct you on?  smile
I turn in my ballot too.  Most Coloradans do.  You know that fact but are obscuring it for reasons of your own.  The drop boxes are why I always describe Colorado's sweet system as mail-out/mail-in/drop-off.  I would hate voting in person in Colorado.  We have so many ballot initiatives and referred measures to vote on.  I like being able to sit at my table, read the blue book, check out Mike Rosen's voting guide and so on.  For a major election it might take me 45 minutes or so to complete my ballot because of the confusingly worded initiatives.  Can you imagine being stuck in line behind some codger who insists on reading the ballot initiatives for the first time in the voting booth!  Yikes.  It would take forever.

January 20, 2022 07:34 AM Forum: Politics

Wow....

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

It simply invites mail borne fraud. 

Do you have any evidence, any evidence at all, that Colorado experiences any more voter fraud than any other state?  I have never seen such evidence.  Furthermore, I have never heard any allegation that Colorado has a higher rate of voter fraud than any other state employing any other system. 

January 20, 2022 07:48 AM Forum: Politics

Wow....

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis
I would In fact PREFER that we went back to regular Marked ballots with the pencil. 

Yet you do not vote in person, even though that is still an option.  I guess you are not interested in walking the walk.

Anyway, of the roughly 383,000 ballots cast in your home, El Paso County, during the November election, almost all arrived to the voter in the mail. Only about 25,000 county residents voted in person, with just over 11,000 of them doing so on Election Day.


https://gazette.com/news/independent-audit-of-el-paso-county-election-results-shows-local-voting-system-works-clerk-and/article_a175bdc8-b821-11eb-9797-279892a22c0c.html

Independent audits  proved that the election in El Paso County was clean.  (See linked article above)  I know it was efficient.  If you want, Rich, you can sign up to be a citizen auditor in El Paso County here: https://ballotaudit.com/elpaso/#/login