Posts Made By: James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Yeah, we've already established that you don't look at evidence much, regarding anything the left does or is doing today.  

Then present some evidence.  I'm happy to look at it!  If you don't have any evidence, just say so!  Easy peasy.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I didn't obscure anything.  I didn't go into a lot of detail about anything.  You're free to choose whatever psychotic thoughts you have about it.

I really couldn't care one wit about it or your opinions, other than what I've explained before.

Of course you did.  You obscured that most Coloradans drop off their ballots rather than trust the mail.  

Originally Posted by James Brown

Then present some evidence.  I'm happy to look at it!  If you don't have any evidence, just say so!  Easy peasy.

Everyone knows that you have no evidence of significant voter fraud in Colorado.  All you have is bluster about them evil dems.  So typical.  

There is lots of evidence that Colorado has relatively high eligible voter turnout, we score a figure well above the national average:

https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_elections
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1184621/presidential-election-voter-turnout-rate-state/

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

You don't have your facts straight Captain arrogance.  LOL

Yet you do not vote in person

Yes I do.   I go to the East Library in Colorado and turn in my ballot.  That's how it is done in my county.  MY district decides how I vote, so you might want to get your facts straight Jack off, before you throw out accusations and such that aren't valid.  

I used to vote at the church down the street, but it was changed.  My place to vote is the East Library. They send it in the mail, I fill it out, and I drive it over there and hand it to the clerk.  

Is there any other incorrect information that you want to spout that I can correct you upon?  Let me know.  

You could absolutely go fill out your ballot in person on election day - but you choose not to.  11,000 of your fellow citizens did vote in person in El Paso County.  You are not one of them.  You would have to go to a VSPC and register first, or show some ID.  I'm good with that ID requirement by the way.

You did receive your ballot by mail.  You completed it at your leisure in your own home, and then you dropped it off.  You chose to drop it off at the East Library but you could have dropped it off anywhere in the county:

https://assets-clerkandrecorder.elpasoco.com/wp-content/uploads/Elections/Documents/VSPC-and-Mail-Ballot-Drop-Box-Locations-2021-Coordinated-Election.pdf''

Please don't try to gaslight any casual reader into thinking you were required to go to the East Library, that is simply not true.  Straight from the horses' mouth: 

"Voters can visit any location to register to vote, update your voter registration, request a replacement ballot, mark your ballot using an ADA accessible ballot marking device, or drop off your ballot."  https://clerkandrecorder.elpasoco.com/elections/ballot-drop-boxes-vspc-locations/

Cool.  I do the same myself.  I do not however, complain on a public forum about the fictitious flaws in a system I fully utilize, and I do not misrepresent how the system works.      

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

The CDC said this?????????????

What the &^*%?

https://dailycaller.com/2022/01/19/cdc-natural-immunity-outperforms-vaccination-covid-19-coronavirus/

CDC Says Natural Immunity Outperformed Vaccines Against Delta Strain


Oh man, I'd hate to be a leftist Democrat right about now.

Talk about throwing a turd in their proverbial punchbowl!!  

How about some kudos for the CDC reporting the science, as it develops!  Hopefully omicron induced immunity will perform well against the next variant too.  If it does, then the pandemic is over since just about everyone is getting omicron. 

Personally, I am glad to have had the jab, rather than catching the alpha strain as protection against delta.  A lot of people got really sick (or otherwise) from alpha.  Even though this study shows that a previous infection is slightly better protection than a vaccine against Delta, I would call that process of catching alpha "doing it the hard way."

Speaking of crappy sources Rich, here is a link to the CDC report.  As far as I can tell the Daily Caller got it right this time.  https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm?s_cid=mm7104e1_w

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Now this is where you're gonna' play the tough guy and spout off because its the only way you can?  LOL

Dude, you're reaching and you look pathetic.  The fact is that I vote on the day that is Tues, of the election month.  I don't need to go somewhere and register.  I'm already registered.  

Do you have anything else, or is this your best??   It sure seems like it is.  I'll say it again for stupid people out there like yourself, I've never voted by mail, EVER. 

I don't and I wouldn't.  

Do you need any other education on anything else, because its tiring and boring when I have to correct you on a minute by minute basis.  

In summary:

* You receive your ballot by mail.
* You study the issues and then complete your ballot in the privacy and convenience of your own home.
* You sign your secrecy sleeve.
* You put your ballot into the secrecy sleeve and then put that into the separate secrecy envelope and seal it up.
* You drive your sealed ballot to one of over a hundred available locations in your county and you hand it off.

All of the above just like everyone else in the great state of Colorado!  You have no evidence of fraud to present to us, and there objectively exists no evidence of any fraud in Colorado beyond the minimal base level every system has.

And yet, even though you fully utilize the Colorado mail-out/mail-in/drop-off system, and I would guess that you trust and enjoy the convenience of our system, you can not bring yourself to admit that it is safe, efficient, and extremely convenient to use.  I wonder why?  

Originally Posted by James Brown

In summary:

* You receive your ballot by mail.
* You study the issues and then complete your ballot in the privacy and convenience of your own home.
* You sign your secrecy sleeve.
* You put your ballot into the secrecy sleeve and then put that into the separate secrecy envelope and seal it up.
* You drive your sealed ballot to one of over a hundred available locations in your county and you hand it off.

All of the above just like everyone else in the great state of Colorado!  You have no evidence of fraud to present to us, and there objectively exists no evidence of any fraud in Colorado beyond the minimal base level every system has.

And yet, even though you fully utilize the Colorado mail-out/mail-in/drop-off system, and I would guess that you trust and enjoy the convenience of our system, you can not bring yourself to admit that it is safe, efficient, and extremely convenient to use.  I wonder why?  

Channeling you here:


Do you trust the integrity of the Colorado mail-out/mail-in/drop-off voting system?  Yes or No

Do you enjoy the convenience of completing your ballot at home?  Yes or No

Do you possess any evidence that voter fraud in Colorado exceeds the level of voter fraud in any similar state using a traditional system?  Yes or No 

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Because I don't vote by mail.

Anything else I can educate you upon?  

Although your ballot is mailed to you.  No denying that.  You do drop the completed ballot off, just like most of the rest of us Coloradans.  Still, I don't see how your election to drop-off rather than mail-back your ballot prevents you from acknowledging that the Colorado system is safe, efficient, and convenient?  The system does provide the option to drop off your ballot of course, and most people do use that route.  Sounds to me like you appreciate the benefits of our voting system as much as I do, but for odd reasons you can not bring yourself to admit it.

Isn't this where you start a bunch of inane threads to distract from the corner you have painted yourself into?

Originally Posted by James Lacey

What the report says is that vaccination is still the safest strategy for preventing COVID infections, hospitalization, long-term effects of COVID, and death.

It goes on to say that before Delta came along, vaccines were doing a better job at preventing illness than a previous infection. After Delta, is when the switch occurred, which is not surprising given that the vaccine was highly targeted at original COVID. If you recall, when Delta came on the scene, there was a lot of worry about how effective the vaccine would be against Delta, and we were all pleased to learn the vaccine still remained highly effective. It seems that for Omicron, neither previous infection or vaccination is winning the game against preventing infection.

Plus, there is a whole litany of risks associated with getting infected with any COVID virus, that is largely mitigated by the vaccine. The report clearly states that:

Although the epidemiology of COVID-19 might change as new variants emerge, vaccination remains the safest strategy for averting future SARS-CoV-2 infections, hospitalizations, long-term sequelae, and death.

Hi James:  The bolded part is a really good point.  This is going to be the cat and mouse game between the scientists and the virus going forward.  Each season they will try to target the prevalent strains with annual vaccines and sometimes they hit, sometimes they miss.  Much like the flu shot today.

By the way, the states that got hit the earliest with Omicron are now in steep decline.  (NY below)  With any luck the rest of the states will follow and we have good reason to hope that this marks the division between a two year public health crisis and one more annual disease to avoid if possible, but that does not over-burden the system.  Evolution is on our side here.  Jim

Originally Posted by James Lacey

What the report says is that vaccination is still the safest strategy for preventing COVID infections, hospitalization, long-term effects of COVID, and death.

Hi James:  This conclusion is well supported by the figures.  In this case, a picture is worth a thousand words.  The graphs below shows the rate of infection (top) and hosptialization (bottom) among four groups during the Delta phase of the pandemic:

(A)  People with no vaccination and no previous infection
(B)  People with vaccination but no infection
(C)  People with previous infection but no vax, and
(D)  People with previous infection and vaccination

Obviously the Group A folks with no vax and no prior infection were at greatly elevated risk of infection and hospitalization than B-D.  The B-D groups are very similar.  This emphasizes the wisdom of getting the jab before any infection in my opinion.  Getting Alpha to protect oneself from Delta was extremely risky at worst and unpleasant at the very best.  I am sure we agree on the wisdom of vaccines.

This data does, in my opinion, need to be taken into account when considering certain public policies that so upset the right.  Specifically:

1.  I understand that one can not go clubbing in NYC without showing proof of vaccination.  The airlines have at least toyed with this idea.  I think a proof of vaccination policy is unnecessary in the age of omicron, since lots of vaccinated and previously infected people are getting omicron.  But if one were to argue for that policy, they ought to be requiring proof of vaccination or proof of previous infection.   

2. Without discussing whether or not a federal vax mandate is constitutional, any vax mandates (state or federal) should exclude those previously infected.  Personally, I think the concept of a vaccine mandate dies with omicron.  We do not mandate flu shots each year.  People make their own choices even though it could be argued that mandating flu shots would save some lives on the margins.  The pharmaceutical companies will no doubt have tailored the vaccines to be effective against omicron in a couple of months, but by then, nature will have taken its course.  So, I am thinking that vax mandates are now obsolete.  Curious if you, Rod, Dave etc. disagree, I can certainly appreciate the counter arguments.  Jim