Posts Made By: Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Tell that to the families of the deceased...

Why would I do that? One thing I would bet on is more than a couple of them are not blaming the gun though......

Well they should certainly see your post.....since you posted 12 copies of it in the same forum LOL

Here we go again...... LOL

Great job on all the hyperbole Rod.....lol

You would be correct that Rod and I certainly dont agree nor I and the idjit you replied do either.....regarding the 2nd ammendment.

I agree with the USSC who did the proper research on the writings of our country's forefathers as well as taking into consideration how the word "militia" was used at the time the 2nd was written. Along with what they meant by "well regulated". The left wants to change the game by reinterpreting those words and phases and assigning different meanings and totally ignore the 2nd phrase of the ammendment ie "rights of the people shall not be infringed". Sorry but that dog wont hunt

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

All guns are weapons of war. 

Next...

Another one shot down lol

Congrats Rich!! Happy for you.....

Originally Posted by James Lacey

When the Second Amendment was written, guns fired 1 round a minute. Now they can fire over 100. Guns have evolved over the years. So should our gun laws.

— Shane Claiborne

Shane and you are demonstrating your ignorance..... The Puckle gun from 1718 was the 1st "machine gun" and fired 9 rounds a minute. The 2nd amendment was adopted to the bill of rights in 1791 roughly 70 years later. Rest assured there were guns well beyond the capability of the Puckle by the time the 2nd amendment was adopted.....

In fact the Girardoni air rifle came along in 1779 and became a military weapon as well, there was a version for the public. It had a rapid rate of fire, held 20 rounds and could be fired up to 30 times before you had to change or pump up  the air cylinder. 1779 was 12 years before the 2nd amendment.....The Lewis and Clark expedition used them as well. They were considered accurate and deadly to 150 yards. It was available in a .46 or .51 caliber ball ammo and you can bet getting hit by a .50 caliber ball that weighed at least triple what a .223 does will do some serious serious damage. 

Edit: noteworthy, the Girardoni was the 1st repeating rifle adopted by the military and the 1st to use a tubular magazine.....and still well before the 2nd was written.

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Well, if the talks on guns in the senate continue along the lines they're being reported, the same 18 year old would be able to walk into the same gun store and buy the same AR15 and the same sixteen hundred rounds of ammo and...

Lets hope so..... because taking guns away from those who obey the law will not stop those who do not obey the law. Simple facts.

Originally Posted by James Lacey

I wasn't trying to prove much beyond the fact that there is an equivalent and valid pro-gun-control quote for every pro-gun quote.

Well then ya missed the mark on this one LOL.....

As well as with most of the others but thats another debate and I am getting tired of preaching to a choir that suffers from cognitive dissonance