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February 16, 2022 02:22 AM Forum: Politics

SAFE Crack smoking. This is the NEW Leftist Democrat Party and its coming to a city near you

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

Yeah, I'm considering switching careers to be a full-time internet troll on an obscure astronomy forum, but I don't know what the pay is. How much are you pulling in with this gig?
Certainly more than he brings in as an unemployed cabinet maker!

February 16, 2022 06:29 AM Forum: Politics

Palen's Suit Is Dismissed!

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
It's unanimous!
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/15/media/sarah-palin-new-york-times-verdict/index.html
Hi Rod:

"Palin did not prove "actual malice," the judge said, which is the standard her legal team had to meet in her defamation case. The landmark 1964 New York Times vs. Sullivan case specifies that public figures who sue for defamation must prove that the offender knew the claim was false or showed "reckless disregard" for the truth.

"The law here sets a very high standard," Rakoff said Monday. "The court finds that that standard has not been met.""

Actual malice is a very difficult burden.  Obviously this was not even a close case.  I'd guess that Palin and her attorneys knew it was a loser, but proceeded anyway, for their own political reasons.  Either that or this is a tragedy perpetrated by the ever-present "activist/hack" judge and "activist/hack" jury as some fool would have us think, whenever he doesn't get his way.  Jim

February 16, 2022 06:33 AM Forum: Politics

But hey, at least this Pastor isn't in a Gulag....

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
 Now go practice your rage on your road trip up I-25. 
Please don't!  Although the highway is much nicer in the past few weeks, now that the construction is done.  Can't wait until the toll-only "Lexus lane" controllers are installed.  Then I can zoom past crabby old guys in my convertible, and wonder if they are Richard!

February 16, 2022 11:27 PM Forum: Politics

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Convoy Truckers are Racist

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
"Fact check: Strong majority of Canadians oppose convoy protests, poll after poll finds"
"Batya Ungar-Sargon, deputy opinion editor of Newsweek, tweeted on Monday: "Don't let the fact that the mainstream media is hiding this fool you: Canadians support the Freedom Convoy."
"In fact, poll after poll -- including the very poll Ungar-Sargon was referencing -- has shown that most Canadians oppose the protests and support both vaccination mandates and various restrictions intended to limit the spread of the virus. The polling figures suggest it is Fox's cheerleading for the protests that is out of touch with the views of a significant majority of the Canadian public."
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/15/politics/fact-check-canadian-protests-polls-trudeau-support-oppose-truckers-mandates/index.html
Hi Rod:

In my opinion, one interesting political issue is who is supporting the truckers and who is supporting the government.  Based upon what I have read, it is the non-college educated working class and the youth who support the truckers and the educated, very liberal, wealthier/older establishment groups who support Trudeau.  This is additional evidence that the left, world wide, is abandoning the working class and finding it's new base with the monied classes.  Correspondingly, the working class gravitates to the right.  Not sure which is cause and which is effect.  In the states, this shift is especially true of the white working class.

This flip-flop of constituencies is well under way in the US.  Consider who is advocating "Defund the Police" vs. "Blue Lives Matter?"  Resentment against snobby liberal elites and Trump are a result of this shift in the US.  HRC's "basket of deplorables" is evidence of the left's abandonment of the working classes.  Now Trudeau is invoking an emergency powers act to quash a worker's protest to the applause of well-to-do progressives?  In the US, if working class voters of color move to the R party in significant numbers the flip-flop will be complete with some very interesting political consequences.

Jim

February 16, 2022 11:36 PM Forum: Politics

SAFE Crack smoking. This is the NEW Leftist Democrat Party and its coming to a city near you

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
James, look at it this way......perhaps if you dont like what someone has to say, hitting NEXT might be a better choice than whining about it. It would certainly be better for your blood pressure smile
Hi Greg:

I can only speak for myself, but James might agree.  Sometimes it is best to ignore Rich, or whomever is trolling at the time.  Other times though, I personally find it extremely entertaining to call Rich out, highlight his BS, and point out the many fallacies and dodges he employs to never acknowledge the validity of a contrary point.  It is fun, until it isn't of course.  No one has the stamina to ever get the last word with Rich.

I imagine you feel this way about Rod - you certainly rarely pass up a chance to engage on some fairly nasty levels.  You must enjoy it?

Rich loves a hostile dynamic.  He lives for it!  It is apparently his sole purpose on this earth.

So, rather than concluding that James needs to lower his blood pressure, I think it is more likely that James is enjoying pointing out (in an entirely rational and persuasive fashion) Rich's narcissistic and dishonest style.  Eventually James will get bored and move on, long before Rich gives up, but James' points are valid and most importantly probably quite satisfying for him to make.  

Jim 

February 17, 2022 01:38 AM Forum: Politics

SAFE Crack smoking. This is the NEW Leftist Democrat Party and its coming to a city near you

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


LOL.....you must have forgotten, I READ this forum. Saying Rich isnt an effective troller is akin to a frog calling something ugly. 
Hi Greg:

I personally think many frogs are quite handsome!  I read this forum too.  I have for 18 years.  I think Rich is a prolific troll.  Sometimes people take the bait, more often (by thread count at least) people ignore him.  So I suppose I would not say he is a particularly effective troll.  Also, I don't think he bothers those like me or my liberal friends as much as you think he does.  Rich is apparently the one who was so agitated over the weekend that he posted a pile of vile bile  in all caps and Herb deleted his thread.  Sorry I missed that.

Rich loves the attention by the way.  It gives his life meaning. 

I can not think of many instances where Rich roasted me or one of my liberal buddies on any political issue.  Could be my biases showing.  An example would be helpful.  

By the way, I enjoy talking about Rich and his issues, unless I'm busy.  Sometimes I feel guilty about it though.

Jim

February 17, 2022 01:39 AM Forum: Politics

SAFE Crack smoking. This is the NEW Leftist Democrat Party and its coming to a city near you

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Greg:

I personally admit that I am an arrogant jerk sometimes.  Jim
 Looks like I can edit the quote function still.

February 17, 2022 01:49 AM Forum: Politics

SAFE Crack smoking. This is the NEW Leftist Democrat Party and its coming to a city near you

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Greg:

I can not think of many instances where Rich roasted me or one of my liberal buddies on any political issue. 

Jim
This is an interesting point.  Often, I might agree with the point Rich is trying to make.  The situation in Canada for example.  Rich and I are both fairly libertarian and think it is crummy that the supposedly liberal government is cracking down on the truckers just because they are a minority viewpoint bucking the establishment.  Rich so effectively obscures any legit point he might have with venom directed at his supposed nemesis, that any points of agreement and nuanced disagreement are totally obscured.  Rich never roasts anyone on the merits, maybe he could, but he would rather bully, bluster, and dodge long enough to simply be the last man standing.  

February 17, 2022 01:55 AM Forum: Politics

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Convoy Truckers are Racist

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Hi Jim,
As noted in the link, 2/3 of those polled strongly disagree with the trucker protestors and their stand on the mandates. A similar majority favor military action to remove the truckers and their fellow protesters. And the opposition to the truckers is clearly demonstrated in multiple polls. So I disagree with your impressions of Canadian politics.
That said, I generally agree with your take on the American side of the border but I think a lot of it is due to the constant flood of misinformation from right wing media sources on a daily basis. It's that propaganda that is responsible for what we're experiencing here and not some sort of class struggle. That and the success of the GOP to push through voter suppression laws in 19 states based upon the big lie of election fraud pushed by Trump and his ilk. In Texas, for example, 40% of absentee ballots are being rejected because of the pitfalls in place by the GOP. Voters, who already had to prove themselves with voter ID in order to register to vote in the first place, have to go through it all over again if they happen to vote by absentee ballot and many of those fail to see an added absentee voter ID number under a flap in the ballot that they have to add to the ballot when they send it in. These sort of "gotcha" rules and steps are being placed though-out GOP controlled states with the end result being voter access IS being thwarted. The bottom line: our democracy is being thwarted and is in peril and it's not classed oriented; it's orchestrated by the GOP...   
Hi Rod:  I added bold above.  I acknowledge that the truckers and those who support them are a minority.  The minority is precisely who classical liberals are supposed to protect.  Trudeau is acting like an authoritarian, not a liberal.  This is a big philosophical deal, and the fact that a vast majority supports him (to the point of military intervention!!!) is part of what makes this a big deal.

February 17, 2022 01:57 AM Forum: Politics

SAFE Crack smoking. This is the NEW Leftist Democrat Party and its coming to a city near you

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Brown

This is an interesting point.  Often, I might agree with the point Rich is trying to make.  The situation in Canada for example.  Rich and I are both fairly libertarian and think it is crummy that the supposedly liberal government is cracking down on the truckers just because they are a minority viewpoint bucking the establishment.  Rich so effectively obscures any legit point he might have with venom directed at his supposed nemesis, that any points of agreement and nuanced disagreement are totally obscured.  Rich never roasts anyone on the merits.  He often bullies, blusters and dodges long enough to be the last man standing.  
p.s. and then I'll shut up for a while.  I enjoy these periodic forum-dynamics "navel gazing" threads.  They build community.  Jim