Originally Posted by James Lacey
We indeed get who we vote for, but it's also true we get a system that doesn't always work well for the people's will. The electoral college, the Senate, the filibuster, gerrymandering, campaign finance, corruption, and lack of ethics, constantly work against the people's will, whomever we elect. I know you know this. I merely wanted to point out it's far more complex than simply who we elect.
Fair points.
I also acknowledge that I am a more in favor of institutions like the EC, the Senate, and the filibuster than you are. Possibly a lot more in favor of these institutions than you are. In my view, these institutions help save us from the tyranny of the majority. I say this knowing well that the composition of the majority swings from time to time.
Obviously neither of us are Ok with corruption, gerrymandering and unethical practices. These sorts of things do not advance the will of the people one way or the other though. These merely enrich or protect the elected class and their enablers.
Equally obvious to me, (although maybe not to the forum right wingers) we both also cherish the Bill of Rights which protects
everyone from government overreach, even though we might disagree on interpretational nuances.
Jim