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June 9, 2022 01:42 AM Forum: Politics

Cheney: Jan 6: "An Extremely Well-Organized Conspiracy"

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Actions by the Democrats was aimed at improving voter access because of the pandemic. If there was any particular problem with what they did, it would have been addressed but the courts. I guess we have to remind Rich again that the 60 Trump cases alleging election fraud have been dismissed by the courts... 
Are you suggesting that 60 judges know more than Rich does?

June 9, 2022 02:49 AM Forum: Politics

A Well Regulated Militia.....

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Mel Maki
James:
"And, nobody wants to take your guns away or prevent anyone from owning a firearm for self-defense. Simple facts"

We just disagree, that's all. 
Ok, I see your point.  I think you and James actually agree on the main points, but are talking past each other.   

June 9, 2022 03:20 AM Forum: Politics

The Terminology Of The "Assault" Rifle

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

 They can and do send invaders packing just on appearance alone without a shot being fired.
I don't have a gun for home defense.  But if I did, I might get a pump-action 12 gauge shotgun like my dad owns.  The "chick-chick" sound of the first shell being pumped into the chamber should be instantly recognized by an intruder, even in the dark.  That alone, with maybe a short "are you ready to die" type warning ought to send the intruder packing without even turning on the lights!  Also, me not being an experienced rifle or pistol user, I'd think my chances of hitting an intruder with  a shotgun would be somewhat higher.  I do expect it would be messy though.  

I actually don't think about home invaders much.   Virtually never.  I hope/suspect I'll never come to regret that.  

June 12, 2022 04:20 AM Forum: Politics

Wall Street Journal on Jan 6 hearings

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

20 million spread over all of those networks. That's just who watched it live, many more streaming on Youtube, ect.   
Me, for example.  I had work to do Thursday night.

June 12, 2022 04:26 AM Forum: Politics

Wall Street Journal on Jan 6 hearings

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll
The House inquiry into the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot launched its TV miniseries Thursday night, and the trick for parsing the proceedings is to keep two ideas in tension. Do Democrats want to unfairly besmirch the entire GOP with the Jan. 6 disgrace, while distracting voters from 8.6% inflation and $5-a-gallon gasoline? Yes.

Yet did the committee offer a damning look at President Trump’s scheme to stay in office after losing the 2020 election? Also yes. Fresh video of the riot is a reminder that Jan. 6 was a brutal melee of fists and chemical sprays. “I was slipping in people’s blood,” said Capitol Police Officer Caroline Edwards. The footage is visceral, even if similar scenes were already on YouTube.


The committee did offer some new and ugly details. “Aware of the rioters’ chants to ‘hang Mike Pence, ’” Rep. Liz Cheney said, “the President responded with this sentiment: Quote, maybe our supporters have the right idea. Mike Pence, quote, deserves it.” Who is the source of that quotation? The committee didn’t say.

Ms. Cheney also said that Mr. Trump gave no orders to the National Guard on Jan. 6 to aid the besieged police, even as Mr. Pence was calling in the cavalry from his post at the Capitol. “There were two or three calls with Vice President Pence,” said Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, in audio testimony. “He issued very explicit, very direct, unambiguous orders.” In effect, “get the Guard down here, put down this situation.”

Mr. Milley also spoke with White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. “He said, we have to kill the narrative that the Vice President is making all the decisions,” Mr. Milley recalled.

So was Mr. Pence in fact giving orders to the military, while the President watched the riot on TV and abdicated his responsibility as Commander-in-Chief? This was reported by the press soon after the riot, citing anonymous officials. But it’s something else to hear it from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

The same goes for the testimony about Mr. Trump’s flimsy theories of undetectable mass voter fraud. “I did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff, which I told the President was bull—,” Attorney General Bill Barr testified.

Alex Cannon, a lawyer for the Trump campaign, recounted a conversation with Mr. Meadows: “I remember sharing with him that we weren’t finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states.” The point is that Mr. Trump was told by his own advisers that he lost the election but still deceived his supporters.

The committee appears to be trying to build a case of “seditious conspiracy” against Mr. Trump, but here the evidence isn’t persuasive. Ms. Cheney offered no evidence that Mr. Trump communicated directly with the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys, who were the vanguard of the assault on the Capitol.

The President spread falsehoods about the election. He invited supporters to Washington on Jan. 6, tweeting on Dec. 19 that it “will be wild!” He riled up the crowd and urged it to march on the Capitol. After violence began, he dawdled instead of sending help. Mr. Trump bears responsibility for the mayhem. But inspiring followers to march is not the same as leading a criminal conspiracy.

One irony is that the largely Democratic committee’s evidence makes clear that Mr. Trump’s designs on overturning the election were foiled mainly by Republicans, including many in his Administration. White House lawyers threatened to resign if he fired Justice Department officials who didn’t indulge his fraud theories. GOP state legislators refused to name new electors. His judicial appointees rejected dubious fraud claims. Above all, his own Vice President stood up to Mr. Trump’s public and private pressure not to count electoral votes.

The committee calls Jan. 6 an “attempted coup.” That makes it seem as if there was a chance of success. There wasn’t. It was an impossible plan hatched by screwballs, and it would have gone down as such if the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers hadn’t breached the Capitol. In the event, Congress still returned to fulfill its duty and count the electoral votes.

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Many Congressional Republicans dishonored themselves by voting to object to electors, even after the riot. But most of the GOP refused to go along. The person who owns Jan. 6 is Donald Trump. Remarkably, he seems to welcome this. “January 6th was not simply a protest,” he wrote Thursday on Truth Social, “it represented the greatest movement in the history of our Country to Make America Great Again.”

Pity the people who went to Washington believing this nonsense, not least the more than 800 who have been charged with criminal offenses. Thursday’s hearing ended with video of rioters explaining their thinking, as their criminal charges flashed on the screen. “I did believe that the election was being stolen,” one man said, “and Trump asked us to come.”

Mr. Trump betrayed his supporters by conning them on Jan. 6, and he is still doing it.
I'm proud of my old classmate Mike Pence.  I am extremely hopeful that the long range fallout from this testimony (and more to come) is the end of DJT as a viable candidate in '24.   I wish I could move along to optimistic, but there are too many people out there like our own astromarters, who simply see no evil when it comes to Trump.  Rich likes to rant about Trump Derangement Syndrome when he gets riled up, which is pretty much always.  I actually see some deranged thinking about Trump here, but it is not James, Rod, or Jim M. who are guilty.

Jim

June 16, 2022 11:16 PM Forum: Politics

Wall Street Journal on Jan 6 hearings

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Richard Davis


Considering she's a pissed off angry, TDS suffering idiot who is on a kangaroo court where no one is there to provide any defense.

It is a one sided only clown show to pacify leftists and other loon Repubs who have a hard on for Trump and always have.

This Jan 6 Mafia Group in Congress is there for one reason only, to continue their impeachment hopes.  

They lost twice in removing him from office and now they are butthurt.

I can guarantee that Liz Cheney will be annihilated, even if she thinks she any chance of reelection in 2022 and it is utter desperation on her part to think that Democrats who cross the aisle, register as Republicans, and then vote in the primary will run her back to Congress?

That is one pathetic move of hope beyond hope for a loser like her to think that this kind of stunt will keep her in office.

Yet, I know she's gung ho for it.

Would you like to make a bet that she shows up as a pundit on MSNBC after she gets stomped in November?  wink
Interesting language.  Provides a lot of insight into Richard's psyche.  

June 22, 2022 01:02 AM Forum: Politics

Wall Street Journal on Jan 6 hearings

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

If that's the case, who do you continue with posts in this thread and in others that support Trump's position and actions regarding Jan 6th?
Hi Rod:

Mel's position makes sense to me.  He would never vote for Trump and never did vote for Trump.  Even so, he is not convinced that the union was nearly lost on Jan 6, or that Trump was the mastermind behind the insurrection.  So he posts here.  Mel's position is not unlike my own.  I think we will both wait and see if Trump is referred for prosecution.  I hope he is, but I don't think the likes of Adam Schiff can get it done.  Jim

June 22, 2022 10:00 PM Forum: Politics

Wall Street Journal on Jan 6 hearings

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

I'm not speaking only to the attempted insurrection of Jan 6 but also to the conspiracy to overthrow the results of the election. These acts are concurrent with one another and, like you, I hope the DOJ prosecutes Trump but a referral for prosecution from the Jan 6 committee isn't necessary for that to occur.
Today's testimony was quite powerful. Did you watch it?
Hi Rod:  No, I have not watched any of it, although I've read articles on both sides, and followed the debate here!  You'll note that I am not throwing my opinion into the mix in this thread since I have not watched the committee proceedings.  I am watching the Stanley Cup - Go Avs!

Understood that the DOJ can prosecute no matter what the committee does, but the DOJ will be put under a lot of pressure if the committee makes a referral.  

I'll follow the actual criminal proceedings more closely than I watch the committee proceedings if it comes to that.  

FWIW I really despise Adam Schiff.  He does your side no favors.  His blind partisanship and lies overwhelm any actual dirt he has on Trump.  It was stupid to put him on the committee.

Trump and his cronies plans to overturn the election through quasi-legal maneuvering was ridiculous from the start and possibly illegal.  The ridiculous part is indisputable since he lost so many suits and his lawyers were severely sanctioned.  I read that Trump collected a lot of money to "stop the steal" which is unaccounted for.  If that turns out to be true, and I have no idea if it actually is, then that is the sort of thing that should be prosecuted.  

I feel that Trump is more of an egomaniacal buffoon than anything else.  James Lacey made a great point a few weeks back.  Trump is an egomaniacal buffoon, and his attempts to cling to power were rebuffed by our robust system.  The real worry is that he is setting a precedent and what if the next maniac who tries to subvert the system is not a buffoon? 

Jim

June 23, 2022 01:40 AM Forum: Politics

Wall Street Journal on Jan 6 hearings

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
I find it interesting and a bit perplexing that Jim is criticizing Adam Schiff for his role on the committee without listening to anything he had to say... 
Adam Schiff has no credibility because of his numerous Russian collusion and Steele dossier lies.  I suppose he still has that smoking gun somewhere?  Schiff is a rabid lying attack dog.   

Look, maybe everything Schiff has done on this particular committee is above board...  Could be I suppose.  But he has no credibility with me because of the entirety of his career.  I doubt he could ever rehabilitate himself in my view, and as you have been told, I'm a RINO.  If I seriously wanted to uncover crimes committed by Trump, Schiff is not the kind of congressman I would put on the committee.  If I wanted maximum impact on the daily talk shows, Schiff would be my guy.

Jim 

June 23, 2022 01:49 AM Forum: Politics

Religious schools now can be funded.....

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Darian Rachal
David, It's my understanding that Maine was allowing vouchers for private schools, but wanted to exclude religious private schools. I believe that's the point Roberts is making.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for a conservative majority that the Maine program violates the Constitution’s protections for religious freedoms.

“Maine’s ‘nonsectarian’ requirement for its otherwise generally available tuition assistance payments violates the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. Regardless of how the benefit and restriction are described, the program operates to identify and exclude otherwise eligible schools on the basis of their religious exercise,” Mr. Roberts wrote.
Hi Darian:   Great post.  You summed it up nicely.  

David:  I expect that you oppose school vouchers of any sort?  Are they a thing in Canada?  People can oppose or support vouchers, charters and other public-funded school choice.  Lots of people on both sides of this issue.  Either way it seems tough to argue that one sort of private school (secular) gets the money and another sort of private school (religious) does not.

Jim