Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Obstruction of Justice requires intent and most importantly, a crime.  

You've made the charge, what was the crime?  

I see you are just promoting more idiocy coming from the left.  

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Rod:

Obstruction could be a crime of course, but it can not occur when the President engages in a constitutionally authorized action, even if he had a questionable motive.  Therefore the CNN article you linked to is bogus on its face.  No one has any credibility whatsoever if they argue that firing Comey is  criminal obstruction (including of course this CNN writer).  Dershowitz explains it all here:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2019/04/18/the-legal-dispute-between-barr-and-mueller/wv0BmogLrYaZzgJFmWjHmN/story.html


I listened to a political science professor on the radio yesterday, who had an interesting take.  He is no doubt a liberal, being a poli-sci professor at CU Boulder.  Nonetheless, he noted that his research shows two things strongly:  

1.  Normal people, as opposed to beltway talking-heads, do not believe that obstruction is possible or relevant if the underlying investigation turns up empty.  Specifically, since there was no collusion with Russia, any possible obstruction is irrelevant in the view of normal people.  Recall that with Watergate there was an underlying burglary.   That is not the professor's legal opinion of course, just an observation that I think is pretty darned accurate.  Joe Six-pack and other deplorable types in middle america know darned well that they would be pissed and not fully inclined to cheerfully cooperate if they were wrongly and very publicly accused of a crime.   The boobs at CNN miss this point.  They argue backward from their pet conclusion and basically believe that (A) since Trump didn't confess to collusion, he is (B) guilty of obstruction.  That view does not play well outside of their bubble.

2.  99.99% of the population (everyone except Adam Schiff) knows now that there was no collusion.  Therefore, this poli-sci prof. believes that if the Dems take the next step and bring impeachment proceedings for something as process oriented and debatable as obstruction, then the negative blow back in 2020 will be enormous.  I agree with that too.  I think that Pelosi understands this and will rein in the more wild impeachment crowd in her coalition, but we will see.

Jim

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

Amazing. Cooper and friends pushed this bs for two years. Never has a news network been so wrong about something for so long. They hold the record and now they are yucking it up. And Toobin has been one of the laughing fools that has been the most wrong! Perfect.

I will not forget those clowns looking into the camera and saying Trump is a Russian agent.

Originally Posted by Domenic Quadrini

Hey James, the Trump campaign may have welcomed that help, but they didn't ask for it and they didn't participate in whatever the Russians were doing; at least that is what Mueller concluded. 

The Russians would have meddled in our election no matter who was running and if it were a different republican that won there may or may not have been an investigation, depending on how PO'ed the democrats were that they lost and how much they disliked the personality of the winning republican. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Trump, but this whole investigation was a sham perpetrated by the left and fueled by the liberal media.  Again, if Clinton had won there would never have been an investigation in the first place.  And if you believe otherwise there is a bridge in New York that someone would like to sell to you.

Originally Posted by James Lacey

The Mueller report makes it crystal clear that Russia attacked our 2016 election to help Trump, and Trump and his campaign welcomed that help. These facts as established by the Mueller report is not media spin, it's not gossip, and it's not a hoax. It is the reason the investigation started and saying otherwise, or that it was a political witch-hunt is quite frankly just dishonest. The only reason the investigation started was because of Russia and the actions of Trump, his campaign and those around him. Then what made matters worse, was all of the lies, and attempted obstruction once the investigation did start. For crying out loud, Trump asked McGahn to fire the special counsel and then write a memo saying that Trump never asked him to do it. In the report Mueller's conclusion was this incident alone satisfies all the elements of obstruction. There are no less than twelve such incidents detailed. The only reason Trump's indictment for obstruction is not a reality is that he's a sitting President and many of his aides had the good sense to not follow through with his requests. I will grant you this though; the Mueller report did exonerate someone; it exonerated the media. It looks like most of their reporting about the White House's chaos and dysfunction and Trump's actions that cause all of this were entirely accurate. And now Trump is demanding political retribution and investigating the investigators. The man is awful, and America deserves far better than a President who acts and behaves like an overgrown childish bully and a banana republic despot.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

SNORT!!! So you admit the famous "dossier" is a real problem for the left then? Or is "opposition research" only a problem when its the right doing it in your opinion? LOL