Posts Made By: James Brown

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Here are other things I said in the same thread. We were talking about reinfection rates.


https://astromart.com/forums/commentary-careful-read-the-terms-of-service/politics/dr-marty-makary-top-epidemiologist-at-johns-hopkins-university-says-about-natural-immunity-vs-vaccinated-immunity?page=4#post182796

Regarding the claims that natural immunity is more effective than the vaccine, several studies from the CDC say precisely the opposite. For example, from August 13, 2021, the analysis below shows how people with a natural infection are 2.3 times more likely to get reinfection than those vaccinated.

But let's set aside actual scientific studies and articles for the moment and think about it logically. The immune response from a natural infection can be pretty variable. Depending on how much viral load you received, you may have a strong or weak response. The vaccine guarantees a strong reaction. Also, a natural infection makes antibodies to all proteins from the virus that your immune system recognizes as foreign. Even the ones that have nothing to do with the infectious nature of the virus. Thus, your immune system is wasting a lot of energy and effort fighting unnecessary things. The vaccine elicits a response to only the spike protein and is a targetted and robust response that is much better at preventing and neutralizing the infection. The science says, and the data says, the vaccine is better. There is no serious debate about this among professionals and experts.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Actually I was referring to the long term effects and I STILL question that as we still dont have that data.....not to mention there is a rather high incidence of negative results including death from the vaccines. To date I remain un-jabbed and have no inclination to get jabbed.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Then let me get this straight, because I'd like to compare what you say today with what You Said back then.

Are you saying that the Vaccine for Covid offers better protection against getting Covid than Natural Immunity.

This is a kind of important point.  

Here's another way of asking.

Which offers BETTER protection against Getting Covid, Natural Antibodies created from getting the virus OR

The Vaccine for Covid?

Which one is better?

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Not me, I always knew that you were a gullible DSOB.  

https://www.nbc12.com/2022/06/22/natural-immunity-offers-greater-covid-protection-than-vaccines-study-finds/

A study published this month in the New England Journal of Medicine shared findings that supported natural immunity providing greater protection from COVID infection than multiple vaccinations.


https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2118946

Among persons who had been previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 (regardless of whether they had received any dose of vaccine or whether they had received one dose before or after infection), protection against reinfection decreased as the time increased since the last immunity-conferring event; however, this protection was higher than that conferred after the same time had elapsed since receipt of a second dose of vaccine among previously uninfected persons. A single dose of vaccine after infection reinforced protection against reinfection.

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

Is it just me, or do others find it hysterical that the entire contents of townhall articles are contained in the URL's to the stories?

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

“Alec Baldwin says he doesn't believe he or anyone else will face criminal charges in the fatal shooting last year on the "Rust" movie set -- a tragic episode he says "has taken years off" his life"

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Just another frustrated    liberal   err..  leftist I see  

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

I’ve been eligible for #4 but now think I’m going to wait for the new one in September. 

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hmmm.  I'll do some reading about that.   If Rod, James, Russ, or anyone else who is inclined to get a second booster wants to chime in, I'd appreciate it.

The current motivation is that we are doing some traveling next week and the week after.  That is crummy motivation of course, plenty of viruses circulating locally.  It is human nature though.  Way back when, more than 20 years ago I did some wills as part of a general practice law firm.  Virtually everyone came in for a will just before a trip by plane, even though they were probably just as likely to die driving around town.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I will alert the appropriate media sources for you, such as Yahoo News, the Huffington Post, The Atlantic magazine, and the Daily KOS.

I'm sure most of those are on your reading list. 

My guess is that the Daily KOS is one  that your read Daily with your coffee.

And Congratulations on making sure that you put a virtue signal about getting vaccine #4, so the left can fawn all over you.