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Posts Made By: Greg Shaffer

July 18, 2023 03:44 AM Forum: Politics

GEORGIA County Traffic Stop

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

"Why would you care what I thought about it?"

Well, for starters, you seem to be, from your past posting on the subject, reasonably informed on certain historical attributes of various firearms. Judge Clarence Thomas has imposed what amounts to be an historical requirement on gun control laws and the 2nd amendment.  Hence, from the current ruling from the federal judge in the recent OREGON case, magazines CAN be regulated and restricted to a capacity of ten or under based upon the historical reasoning that high capacity magazines didn't exist and if they did, they were considered to accessories to a firearm and not an actual firearm so they can, in fact, be regulated... 

I am not bothered by a 10 round or less restriction. Higher capacity magazines make the weapon more awkward to handle......and I can change a 10 round clip out in a couple seconds. So much like the silly ban on silly bump stocks its just another red herring.

That said, the fed judge that upheld it was wrong about them not existing historically and using that as an excuse for his ruling.... the full auto Puckle Machine Gun existed something like around 70 years before America did lol

Then there was the Girardoni rifle that held 20 rounds which also predated the Constitution as well by a few years.....

There are others as well dating back to the mid 1600's that offered up to a 30 round capacity before reloading......

July 18, 2023 04:31 AM Forum: Politics

GEORGIA County Traffic Stop

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Ok, but let's assume one is not a quickdraw, perhaps like some of these frequent mass shooters and shootings that occur regularly with high capacity magazines. Changing the mags while firing randomly at fleeing people might take a bit more time for these types, thus allowing more people to escape. That seems to be the general reasoning behind these gun control laws...

So you are not bothered by the fact that his reasoning was flawed since you addressed none of that...... I bet it bothers you that his ruling can be overturned based on its legal flaws though lol

July 18, 2023 08:00 AM Forum: Politics

GEORGIA County Traffic Stop

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

How is it that his reasoning was flawed?

Evidently your reading comprehension was tested and found wanting lol

His whole premise was based on at the time the 2nd amendment was ratified high capacity magazines didnt exist and was therefore not covered but instead could be now limited because of that.

I cited at least 3 instances disproving his premise.....and can come up with more going back close to 200 years.... its pretty simple so I didnt think I needed to actually spell it out for you smile

However, as I said, I am fine with a 10 round limit as it is little more than a feel good ruling for people like you.....if it makes you feel safer I can live with it, its called compromise. 

July 18, 2023 08:43 AM Forum: Politics

GEORGIA County Traffic Stop

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

His premise was not predicated upon whether or not high capacity magazines existed at the time, and if you read and comprehend the link you'd know that, but rather that the magazines were considered to be accessories of firearms and not firearms themselves so they are not applicable under the second amendment. 
In essence, he had to apply Clarence Thomas' reasoning that one must harken back to the historical precedences of the revolutionary times when the constitution was eventually framed and apply whatever standard existed at that time to today.
Clarence Thomas's "reasoning" works both ways...

What link? there are only 2 links in this thread and neither of them reference any of what you are speaking of regarding that reasoning dumbass.....

July 18, 2023 08:58 AM Forum: Politics

GEORGIA County Traffic Stop

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/16/politics/oregon-large-capacity-gun-law-ruling/index.html
PS: Try reading the posts in the forum you participate in...

That link is NOT in this thread dumbass lol

And right here (from the article you cited) "“Magazines are an accessory to firearms, rather than a specific type of firearm,” Immergut said. “At the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification through to the late nineteenth century, firearm accessories like cartridge boxes – which held ammunition but, unlike modern magazines, did not feed the ammunition into firearms – were not considered ‘arms’ but instead were considered ‘accouterments,’” the ruling said."

This is where the premise falls flat.....I cited 3 cases where that simply isnt true and have more as well. One of them held upto 11, another 20 and another 30 rounds and absolutely fed the rounds into the firearm. All three predated the ratification of the 2nd by 10 to 100+ years.

You mentioned you wanted me to give my input to this thread as you realized I had applicable knowledge....well, you got it LOL

July 18, 2023 03:11 PM Forum: Politics

GEORGIA County Traffic Stop

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Like I said, you need to read the posts in the FORUM that you participate in. 
That said, I'm going with the ruling of the court and not your opinion of what you think it ought to be...

The link you added was NOT in the thread we were discussing it in dumbass..... I did however read it when you added it and as I said the judge based his opinion on false information and therefore would not stand up to a challenge were it to be challenged. Of course I already knew you would not admit it which is why I rarely pursue a discussion with you......

July 18, 2023 10:17 PM Forum: AstroMart FAQ

email support for banned IP address

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Joseph Ricks
Is there any way to communicate directly with Astromart administrators (ie email or phone) to resolve issues with the site? Specifically, I just received error 1006 banning my IP address. This happened while I was browsing the classifieds. 

[email protected] or call Anacortes Telescope & Wild Bird....

July 18, 2023 10:31 PM Forum: Politics

GEORGIA County Traffic Stop

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

The link is in the FORUM that you regularly follow and/or participate in so start reading 'em!
If your ideas about what was standard issue for anybody back in the times that Clarence thinks are relevant to today then the NRA, who brought the challenge to the Oregon law, would have known about it and advanced it as an argument and if it were legit it would have made a difference. Obviously,  your explanation of whatever arms/magazines that *might* have been available isn't relevant and doesn't amount to a hill of beans, as usual...

Damn, you really are a dumbass arent you? LOL.....So you want to scold me for not knowing about a link you posted in another thread different from the one we were discussing in??????

And yes, the info I provided directly contradicts the premise put forth in YOUR link that such high capacity magazines did not exist at the time the 2nd amendment was ratified. They are not my "ideas" just verifiable facts LOL

Here is a thought dumbass.....You should take Russ'es advice and take the win in the sense that "I" as an avid gun supporter told you I am not particularly concerned about a 10 round limit and while I am not particularly enthralled with the idea am willing to accept it in the spirit of compromise instead of twisting and turning over it as you are doing.....

July 18, 2023 10:44 PM Forum: Politics

Screeching Demagogue Becky Pringle, the head of the NEA

Posted By Greg Shaffer

I never make Hitler comparisons and detest those who do since 1 out of 100 might be applicable.....but I have to agree with the writer, it was a Hitlarian performance LOL

July 18, 2023 11:12 PM Forum: Politics

GEORGIA County Traffic Stop

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

The NRA should have called you as an expert witness since their own obviously failed. They NRA will probably appeal it to SCOTUS so perhaps you'll still have a crack and a pop at it. Why don't you contact the NRA and offer your services? Perhaps you could appear as a friend of the court with your factual and unbiased information? Maybe you'll bump into Clarence Thomas at a local Walmart since he likes RVing in them, sit around the rigs chewing the fat and get to talking about early firearms and US history. What a wonderful opportunity for two, unbiased souls to meet and greet!

Still cant stop twisting and turning I see LOL