Posts Made By: Jim Moscheck

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

True, but if you look at the title of the thread, the type of rhetoric you refer to is on full display. Davis doesn't know who did it or why. If he's so sure of the who and the why of it, he should inform the Utah PD and the FBI. I'm sure they'll take him seriously...

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Yes, he personally believed it was worth it.  His faith made him confident and he knew each and every day 

You might want to find the context of that quote which was cherry picked by leftist haters because that little portion of what he stated is what the haters want you to think about him.

I can tell you that I agree 100% with that quote because I know the FULL context of that quote.

Here is what he stated since you don't know the full statement he made and if I don't inform you, you will never know

AUDIENCE QUESTION: How's it going, Charlie? I'm Austin. I just had a question related to Second Amendment rights. We saw the shooting that happened recently and a lot of people are upset. But, I'm seeing people argue for the other side that they want to take our Second Amendment rights away. How do we convince them that it's important to have the right to defend ourselves and all that good stuff?

CHARLIE KIRK: Yeah, it's a great question. Thank you. So, I'm a big Second Amendment fan but I think most politicians are cowards when it comes to defending why we have a Second Amendment. This is why I would not be a good politician, or maybe I would, I don't know, because I actually speak my mind.

The Second Amendment is not about hunting. I love hunting. The Second Amendment is not even about personal defense. That is important. The Second Amendment is there, God forbid, so that you can defend yourself against a tyrannical government. And if that talk scares you — "wow, that's radical, Charlie, I don't know about that" — well then, you have not really read any of the literature of our Founding Fathers. Number two, you've not read any 20th-century history. You're just living in Narnia. By the way, if you're actually living in Narnia, you would be wiser than wherever you're living, because C.S. Lewis was really smart. So I don't know what alternative universe you're living in. You just don't want to face reality that governments tend to get tyrannical and that if people need an ability to protect themselves and their communities and their families.

Now, we must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price. 50,000, 50,000, 50,000 people die on the road every year. That's a price. You get rid of driving, you'd have 50,000 less auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit of driving — speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services — is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road. So we need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. You could significantly reduce them through having more fathers in the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools. We should have a honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.

You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am, I, I — I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.

So then, how do you reduce? Very simple. People say, oh, Charlie, how do you stop school shootings? I don't know. How did we stop shootings at baseball games? Because we have armed guards outside of baseball games. That's why. How did we stop all the shootings at airports? We have armed guards outside of airports. How do we stop all the shootings at banks? We have armed guards outside of banks. How did we stop all the shootings at gun shows? Notice there's not a lot of mass shootings at gun shows, there's all these guns. Because everyone's armed. If our money and our sporting events and our airplanes have armed guards, why don't our children?  



Now in all honesty, I doubt the Context for you will make one iota of difference in your mind, but it is possible. 

You seem to be the only one who has the decency to have made a fairly nice statement about Charlie Kirk here.  

The others aren't worth responding to... For ME.  Have a good day.  

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

And this is fact that is appalling about the left.

48% of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. 

55% said the same about Donald Trump.

Luigi Mangioni is hailed as a hero among the left, and a Go Fund Me Page was started FOR his legal defense.  

To date that is OVER $2 million in the coffers.  

22% of Young Democrats say that the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson by Luigi Mangioni was justified.

There is a serious problem with the Marxist Democrat party.  

You might want to look into that. Your party is raising a bunch of Immoral people.

Charlie Kirk was there to turn it around.

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

Thanks for giving the quote in context. Yeah, I don't agree with much of his reasonings. 

How do you stop assassins with high powered rifles that in trained hands are deadly accurate to over well over 200 yards?