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Posts Made By: Mark Holden

July 9, 2005 05:23 PM Forum: Equipment Talk

I would like some opinions on a grab and go scope

Posted By Mark Holden

Wayne Gay said:

Hello folks, I am looking at buying an apo or semi apo for a grab and go scope for imaging. I currently use an LX200 but it is becoming increasingly difficult to take with me as it takes up a lot of room in my car, and is quite heavy. I want to leave it in my observatory (nearly complete) and get an APO or Semi-Apo for field use. I currently have a televue TV-60 for my wide field work and have thought about getting a nice mount and using it for the time being, but I would prefer to go with something bigger, perhaps a 102mm or even a 127mm Apo. I have about two thousand to spend on scope and mount, so any of the top of the line apo's and mounts are out of range. There is a Meade 127 ED APO w/ 650 GOTO mount up for sale here and it is in my price range, but I hesitate because I haven't heard how well this scope and mount performs for astrophotography. I do like the fact that the mount is a goto, as I am fairly new to this hobby and am still learning the skies. I generally run a mount via my laptop and would prefer this ability. Does this mount allow this? Would I be better off getting a nice gm-8 with goto and using my TV-60? All help appreciated.

I have a GM8 with the Gemini system on a G11 tripod that I use with a TMB 115 CNC. I consider it a grab and go on steroids.

It's serious overkill for the TV-60, but if you buy a Gm8 you'll have a very nice mount that you'll be able to keep when you upgrade to a larger objective later.


July 10, 2005 04:14 PM Forum: Equipment Talk

Pier vs tripod

Posted By Mark Holden

Steven Lynn said:

In my 10+ years of playing with telescopes I've only used tripods. I've never seen a simple comparison between the benefits and downsides of piers vs tripods.

I can understand the benefits of a pier in a permanent installation, but any comments comparing the two for portable equipment? The major point of course is stability, but there are all those other issues. Ergonomics, weight, hassle factor, ect. Is one generally superior to the other?

For example, I have kinda adapted to having the legs in the way. Are the feet of a tripod just a similar annoyance or in practice a great relief to not have legs in the way?

Current scopes: TV-85 on Vixen GP-very stable, Orange Tube C8 on the original tripod, 2-3 second vibration die down time.

I'm not sure my comparison can be applied across the board, but here are some observations.

The pier I've used is an Advanced Telescope Systems pier that's used with an AP900gto mount a friend owns.

It's rock solid - at least as good as any tripod I've used.
I suspect this is because while the legs are shorter, they're quite substantial. It's also machined to close tolerances.

The big advantage I notice with this pier is the system for leveling - Each leg has a bolt with knurls you can twist with your hand to tweak the angle (and hence the height) of the leg. It's much easier than adjusting the lengths of individual legs on a massive tripod.

I can't give you a weight comparison as I've never tried a tripod for a similarly sized mount.

But my friend can set up his pier in less time than it takes me to assemble and level my G11 tripod.

My G11 tripod is also rock solid. But the pier is more convenient if you don't mind lifting the entire weight at once.

My friend is getting a Particle Wave Technologies pier for his next scope that will use an AP 1200 mount.



July 16, 2005 07:36 PM Forum: Equipment Talk

Strehl ratio and wavefront values, how important a

Posted By Mark Holden

Gary Smith said:

I also am considering a higher end refractor or a solar scope (not both). I just want to understand the quantitative values above and how they impact the viewing experience. I have an Orion 80ED and when I look at the moon it is crystal clear (what else is there?). I'll grant you it doesn't have the ability to see deeper like a larger refractor, or reflector does, but I'm just trying to see the value in these two benchmarks and practically what they represent. It kind of reminds me when the audio industry would market "THD" or total harmonic distortion, which to me was some marketing hype, the reality is if your hearing is damaged from working around power equipment etc. its pointless to go for some ultra expensive speakers/system because your ears will never perceive the 'fidelity'. I have 20/20 and 20/15 vision and I'm in my early 40's what I've noticed in the last 5 yrs. is how my night vision has worsened. I used to get up in the night and be able to make it around in a completely dark house with ease, now I have to proceed more cautiously. When I look at this scope: http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=363494 , (which must have superlative optics and a premium added to the price for the high benchmarks) I just want to know if when I look through the eyepiece if I am going to perceive any difference, otherwise whats the point? I'm very pragmatic and if there is no added value then I don't need to waste the money on something that is I guess only for bragging rights. Thank you for the replies and any clarity (no pun intended) you can offer. smile

Also what are the minimum strehl and wavefront values that are desired before the viewing experience is affected and what do you start to "see" when these values become inferior?

Conversations with TMB lead me to feel .96 is "good enough" Beyond this, you're mostly buying bragging rights unless you're gonna be able to observe from space.

A few weeks ago, Markus posted something on the TMB group that indicates the lens tests on TMB objectives should be considered as a "no worse than" figure.

Somebody had their objective critically tested for Strehl and a lens LZOS tested as .952 tested as .989

When Markus checked with LZOS they told him it would be more expensive to make sure every lens was perfectly installed on the interferometer to get the highest possible rating.

I have a TMB 115 CNC and love it.

A friend has a 130 f6 CNC and it's also a very nice scope.

July 19, 2005 01:39 PM Forum: Politics

Re: Report explains how Plume was outed

Posted By Mark Holden

Jim Babcock said:

I warned you about the source.

The thesis of this article would be something like:

Even though 36 news agencies explained in a friend of the court brief, to preempt reporters from being held in contempt of court, that there was not a crime committed in the outing of Plume because Plume had already been outed long before by the CIA itself, the press was complicit in attacking Karl Rove for partisan reasons and simply has not reported evidence that supports Rove or anyone in the White House.

I had to use this source because I could not find a "mainstream" source that was reporting this even though if the story is correct there were 36 news organizations that signed the friend of the court brief.

The reported story discusses the facts provided by news agencies to the court to prove that Plume's outing could not have been a crime. Then the media proceeded to orchestrate an attack campaign with their complicit friends in the Democratic party to smear Karl Rove, even though they knew they were reporting lies.

This article again says that we should hold judgment on whether any crime was committed, but it presents a perspective that has not been heard before and is at least interesting.

Anyone who would like to read the brief can find it here:

< http://www.bakerlaw.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/10159/Amici%20Brief%20032305%20%28Final%29.PDF >

July 22, 2005 08:06 PM Forum: After Dark

Sponsor Page Usefulness

Posted By Mark Holden

Eh, when you have some free time, just visit them all, and make note of who sells things you're likely to be interested in.


July 25, 2005 04:16 AM Forum: Politics

CNN Interviews Insurgent Commanders

Posted By Mark Holden

Of course the guy is going to claim he's got a big army.

It's propaganda intended to scare us off.

Remember Baghdad Bob?

It would be foolish for our government to provide accurate meaningful intelligence to the general public.

It would be kind of like showing your hand before betting in a game of poker.

July 25, 2005 07:34 PM Forum: Politics

CNN Interviews Insurgent Commanders

Posted By Mark Holden


Here is a link to the transcript for CNN PRESENTS: A Progress Report: The Iraq War

Aired July 22, 2005 - 20:00 ET

< http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/22/cp.01.html >

Rod appears to have mistakenly attributed the following quote to the insurgent leader.

ROBERTSON: Some U.S. intelligence sources say there are now as many as 200,000 insurgents. Since January of 2004, they say, 10,000 have been killed, 10,000 wounded, and 30,000 detained. Yet, the insurgency goes on. There are still 300 to 400 reported attacks a week, and that each U.S. offensive creates more recruits for the insurgents.




August 1, 2005 01:37 PM Forum: Politics

Planet X Naming?

Posted By Mark Holden

I normally would favor the traditional approach, but I'll toss in a curve ball.

See if that on line casino that's buying 10 year old grilled cheese sandwiches and the rights to name people would care to pony up enough to cover the cost of a manned mission to Mars in return for naming the new planet after them.

Of course I doubt they have the money...




October 20, 2005 03:30 PM Forum: Eyepieces

Anyone looked through the TMB/Burgess 6mm?

Posted By Mark Holden

David Pitre said:

I'm wondering how good/bad the first run discounted ones are.
Hows the 9mm?
David


I looked through a 9 a friend owns at a star party.

The preliminary look indicated it's a good deal for the price - but I don't need one unless it does something better than something I already have, and I'll need to do a head to head comparison with some of my current eyepieces the next time we observe together.

When the 4 comes out and is approved by TMB I'll probably buy one as I don't have anything shorter than a 5, and I'd like a little more eye relief than the TMB 4mm monocentric offers.

On the BO/TMB 6, I haven't looked through one, but personally, I'd hold off until they get ones that pass TMB's inspection. They're probably a deal if holding down costs is a major goal, but there's no doubt I'd end up wanting the full spec ones as soon as they're available.

October 21, 2005 06:38 PM Forum: Refractors

Orion ED100 fix

Posted By Mark Holden

Gary Carter said:

I recently purchased an Orion ED100 and after a night of evaluation I determined there was a problem. As it happens the spacers between the elements are visible in the FOV. A quick note to Orion's technical support confirms this and they are willing to either have me send it in or, at my option, open it up and move them back in the appropriate position. Being the typical "male-child" I'm not adverse to taking things apart and putting them together again (hopefully) - it's kind of challenging. But this assumes one has the willingness and the proper tools, which brings me to the question....

Where do I find a spanner wrench of the appropriate size to dissasemble the lens assembly?

A concern I'd have with working on it myself is the rotational alignment of the lens elements may be important to getting the best performance from the lens.