How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
You know, for once, I'd like your alternate reality to be correct and have the markets go up instead of taking a Trump dump. But that's not reality, now is it?Originally Posted by Richard Davis
LOL! Typical Trump deranged lib.
How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
Dave, Although the CONS on the forum won't read it, here's a timely fact check comparing Coronavirus and Swine Flu. I'm sure you'll appreciate whereas they can't:Originally Posted by David CotterellRichard: This comment which you bolded as evidence that the doctor is wrong and that corona viruses have been around for a long time ---> " (The TL;DR is that the Corona Viruses (there are two strains) are new and humans have no natural resistance) is not from the doctor. It is from me, trying to sum up what is in the long article.
Let me re-write it so that it is 100% true: " (The TL;DR is that these particular Corona Viruses (there are two strains) are new and humans have no natural resistance).
So, my error led to your error.
The gist of the situation is the fact of the lack of natural resistance we have against COVID...because it is brand new.....
And Covid does damage the lungs. They fill with fluid and become pneumonic. The damage is temporary if you recover and pretty much permanent if you don't...... but it is damage.
The doctor's statement is correct.
Stay home.
Dave
How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
Jim, As you may recall, I posted a thread on Israel's plan and asked where was ours was while noting Ben Carson said we had one but couldn't talk about it. We're only now ramping up to meet the expected challenges and many of our hospitals and clinics are underprepared, to say the least. We don't have enough test kits, drive through facilities and protective gear. Maybe that's why Ben wasn't talking about it. But other countries already were acting and we could have taken a stronger cue from them. I believe another president would have done so. It wasn't too long ago that Fox was downplaying the concerns with this virus along with "will see" attitude from the Trump team. Now that Trump has changed his tune, so has Fox. They all should have recognized the realities sooner as other countries did and acted appropriately. It was too long in coming and the tests, gear and the like still have a ways to go...Originally Posted by James Brown
Hi Dave:
I hope Russ and James read this post. I have been surprised and pleased (almost shocked) at how completely and willingly the social distancing efforts are being implemented in my neck of the woods. You will probably recall that I was extremely skeptical two weeks ago. Wrong again on my part!
Your estimate of the number of ICU beds in the US is wrong by at least 10x. I expect a typo on your part. We have at least 60k ICU beds and about 160,000 ventilators available. We have more ICU beds per capita than any other country in the world. Canada is in 2nd place, with about 1/2 the ICU beds we have, per capita. Will our relatively large supply of ICU beds and ventilators be enough? Hope so. Hope so for your sake too.
https://www.sccm.org/Communications/Critical-Care-Statistics
https://www.niskanencenter.org/is-u-s-health-care-well-equipped-for-the-coronavirus/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/13/coronavirus-numbers-we-really-should-be-worried-about/
One central point that Richard and Greg have made, in my view, is that this medical crisis is being exploited for political gain. This always happens. The opinion pieces attacking the Trump administration are legion, and in my opinion predominantly unfair. The administration response to crisis can always be second guessed, and of course Trump's demeanor makes it easy. But, the administration has in fact taken dramatic action. I doubt that any other administration would have done much better. I also doubt that this is the coup de grace that so many of Trump's enemies hope it is. I would not be surprised if Trump's popularity increases as the crisis deepens. Rallying together in the face of crisis is a very human and American behavior.
Of course, time will tell what the political fall-out might be. And since I am wrong about a lot, take my guess with a grain of salt!
Jim
How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
That's bullshit because the US has far more cases that haven't been detected because we haven't been testing for it! Duh!Originally Posted by Richard Davis
Let me just point out something for all the Never Trumpers and the fools out there like Rod, who want to say that the Trump administration was SO far behind the 8 ball in preparing and getting the virus under Control.
We have a total of 9464 cases reported in the USA, amounting to a total of 29 cases per every 1 Million people in the population.
Let's check Israel since he wants to bring up other countries as being SO ready.
Israel has a total of 529 cases, amounting to a total of 61 cases of the virus per 1 Million in the population.
That means Israel has more than TWICE the number of cases per person in their population than does the USA under Trump.
That's pretty significant.
And the fact is that of all developed countries we as a nation are very low on the totem pole of cases per Million people in the population.
All we ever hear about from the leftist fools is how wonderful the Socialized medicine is in the Scandinavian countries.
Let's see their stats.
Norway: Cases per Million in the population: 310 PER MILLION
Sweden: Cases per Million in the Population: 129 PER MILLION
Denmark: Cases per Million in the Population: 195 PER MILLION
Now let's go back and take a look at Israel and the USA.
Isreal: Cases per Million in the Population: 61 PER MILLION
USA: Cases per Million in the Population: 29 PER MILLION
So then, maybe you can explain Rod, if Donald Trump is doing such an inept job, why do we have so few cases of Coronavirus per Million in the Population?
He's doing a fine job, a better than average job, because he took the initiative that I dare to say YOUR PRECIOUS OBAMA never took when H1N1 came around.
You didn't have any criticisms of that guy, because you virtually worshipped the ground he walked on.
In other words Forrest Jr. You are full of it.
How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
"At 5.7% the US currently has the world's highest death rate compared to the global average of 3.4%" The Business Insider.Originally Posted by Richard Davis
So do the other countries, especially those socialist medicine countries.
And if that is the case, then the death toll percentage is far less than the current death toll percentage. DUHHHH!
How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
Not with the public health...Originally Posted by Mel MakiOther presidents also played hardball politics.
How's Wuhan World Going In Your State?Posted By Rod Kaufman |
I don't understand why you're not following Rich and Greg on this one because, according to them, he's right on it. As per another thread from me, he's asking for public input on whether or not he should remove his tariffs to get China's medical supplies to us faster. In other words, he's making us all part of the global effort for joint assistance. Truly a world leader, wouldn't you say?...Originally Posted by James Lacey
All Presidents and parties play politics with everything. However, it is not politics to point out the continued failures of the man who is supposedly the leader in this crisis, especially when he keeps making new horrific decisions atop of the old ones. Trump ignored the crisis for months and dismissed it as no more severe than the seasonal flu. He could have taken actions to prepare, but instead, he was more worried about spooking the markets. To put it bluntly, he has been derelict in his duty. That is not political; at this point, it's just a self-evident truth. Have you been watching the daily press briefings? They are a joke and resemble a pep rally with hostages whose only real purpose is to shower, the dear leader with praise. Occasionally, Pence, or Fauci, or Birx will attempt to interject some reality, but inevitably Trump starts babbling and thinks he can word salad his way out of tough questioning. Either that or he plays the bully or spouts more nonsense about anti-malaria drugs being a miracle cure because he saw it on Fox news. This behavior is not leadership. It's pathetic at best.
